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Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ppSn1-0001wL-NG; Thu, 20 Apr 2023 07:49:27 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?= on Thu, 20 Apr 2023 11:31:52 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:260329 Archived-At: > From: João Távora > Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2023 11:31:52 +0100 > Cc: Dmitry Gutov , jporterbugs@gmail.com, 62720@debbugs.gnu.org, > philipk@posteo.net, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, larsi@gnus.org > > On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 11:02 AM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Please in the meantime, allow me add to eglot.el: > > (defun eglot-update () "Update Eglot regardless of package.el policy." > (interactive) > (unless package-archive-contents (package-refresh-contents)) > (package-install (cadr (assoc 'eglot package-archive-contents)) > > This will allow at least Eglot users to weather the storm until Emacs > 30. I know you forbade this in the past, but now that more "facts and > subtleties" have come to light, maybe you can reconsider? I'll readily > deprecate this function when a solution has been found for the next > Emacs. It doesn't really affect anyone but Eglot users and these > are, in your own admission, already negatively affected anyway, so > what is there to lose? I didn't forbid it. I said I'd prefer not to have it in Emacs, and I still do.