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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 68075@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#68075: 30.0.50; New special form `handler-bind`
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2024 19:35:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83h6jx0xez.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv1qb16lxe.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 01 Jan 2024 11:55:43 -0500)

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: 68075@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2024 11:55:43 -0500
> 
> >> So, IIUC, reading that text makes you feel unsure, but you don't really
> >> know what you're unsure of?
> >
> > Oh, but I do: the two references to "dynamic", including one to
> > "dynamic binding" seem to indicate quite unequivocally that "dynamic
> > binding" vs "lexical binding" could be involved.
> 
> Yes, it is involved: statically scoped vars are not affected, while
> dynamically scoped vars are affected, which is why the text says
> "dynamic".

Ah, so lexical binding _is_ relevant to this, in the sense that
lexically-bound variables are _not_ affected!  Then please say that,
maybe in parentheses or as a footnote.

And please don't use "statically scoped", because we don't use this
terminology anywhere in the ELisp manual.  We always say "lexical
scoping".

> Sadly, I still fail to grasp what kind of change to the wording could
> address the problem because I still don't really understand the problem.
> Maybe you could try to rewrite that bit in a way that you find more
> clear (or if there's still some part of the behavior over which you have
> doubts, then I'd be happily to try and explain it further).

I hope now it is more clear.





  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-01 17:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-28  6:33 bug#68075: 30.0.50; New special form `handler-bind` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-28  8:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-28 18:12   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-28 18:14     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-30  7:50       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-28 18:25     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-28 22:04       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-30  7:52     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-31 19:07       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-31 19:36         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-01 15:37           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-01 16:06             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-01 16:55               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-01 17:35                 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-01-02  4:56                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-04 23:57                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-05  0:38                       ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-05  0:50                     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-05  2:57                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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