From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#10125: RFE: require and load-path-shadowing Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 20:39:54 +0200 Message-ID: <83fw26s0sl.fsf__44536.8833411068$1358016038$gmane$org@gnu.org> References: <87sj68eogm.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87wqvjd7qa.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87bocvcx9f.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83ip72u89o.fsf@gnu.org> <87ehhqn1md.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <8338y6txjh.fsf@gnu.org> <83wqvisdxx.fsf__30242.1131091707$1357998993$gmane$org@gnu.org> <87ip72fi8f.fsf@Rainer.invalid> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1358016020 8089 80.91.229.3 (12 Jan 2013 18:40:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:40:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 10125@debbugs.gnu.org To: Achim Gratz Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 12 19:40:34 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu60K-0002Ew-LW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:40:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50056 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu601-00046S-Cg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:40:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59952) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu5zs-0003sI-Vf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:40:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu5zr-00011H-Cz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:40:00 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:51774) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu5zg-0000xM-VP; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:39:48 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu5zu-0005X2-Ez; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:40:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:40:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10125 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 10125-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10125.135801599121243 (code B ref 10125); Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:40:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 10125) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jan 2013 18:39:51 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57238 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu5zj-0005Wa-8r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:39:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:62245) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tu5zh-0005WL-2j for 10125@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:39:50 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MGI00100ZSU8Y00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 10125@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 20:39:29 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MGI001M6ZTT5J40@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 20:39:29 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <87ip72fi8f.fsf@Rainer.invalid> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:69681 Archived-At: > From: Achim Gratz > Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:01:36 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> > IOW, do you expect the byte-compile instances to be different in any > >> > way from a fresh Emacs session invoked from the shell as "emacs -Q"? > >> > >> Yes, because the current Emacs may be a different executable than the > >> one the shell would run in response to "emacs -Q". > > > > And if we make sure the same executable is run (easy on Windows)? Are > > there any other differences? > > There may have been changes in the way Emacs starts up in the meantime, > since we're considering the case where new packages get installed. > Starting Emacs with "-Q" shouldn't be affected by this, but there's no > guarantee (yes, this is a fringe case). Sorry, I don't follow: new packages can only affect "emacs -Q" if you re-dump Emacs in between. Am I missing something?