From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14233: 24.3; Don't constrain frame size to character multiples Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:09:50 +0300 Message-ID: <83fvyfx3c1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <2r7gjy2gyy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83bo991z00.fsf@gnu.org> <517257A0.4080607@gmx.at> <8338ul1rmb.fsf@gnu.org> <517275A0.1040702@gmx.at> <83wqrxzbc7.fsf@gnu.org> <51729A6A.7090404@gmx.at> <83mwstyxre.fsf@gnu.org> <5172D1D6.8030200@gmx.at> <83bo99ys79.fsf@gnu.org> <5173B0B2.9070607@gmx.at> <51750438.5060106@gmx.at> <8C0357F6-5720-42E5-90EB-B83416F0344E@swipnet.se> <51762F4D.7070101@gmx.at> <8361zdxll8.fsf@gnu.org> <51777DF3.5030206@gmx.at> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1366823468 22376 80.91.229.3 (24 Apr 2013 17:11:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:11:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esabof@gmail.com, 14233@debbugs.gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 24 19:11:12 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UV3Ds-0001ke-3R for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:11:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53331 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UV3Dr-0000hN-J4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:11:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59399) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UV3Dk-0000gP-Fg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:11:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UV3Df-0007Nc-5j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:11:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:37179) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UV3Df-0007NL-2h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:10:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UV3IX-00088Q-SV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:16:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:16:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14233 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 14233-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14233.136682371631181 (code B ref 14233); Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:16:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14233) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Apr 2013 17:15:16 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41285 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UV3Hk-00086j-V0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:15:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:65318) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UV3Hd-00085Q-Sk for 14233@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:15:11 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MLR00H00RJB0J00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 14233@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:09:49 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MLR00GNJRODZG20@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:09:49 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <51777DF3.5030206@gmx.at> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:73638 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 08:38:43 +0200 > From: martin rudalics > CC: jan.h.d@swipnet.se, esabof@gmail.com, 14233@debbugs.gnu.org > > >> When you remove the scrollbars the Emacs frame shrinks. When you > >> remove the fringes it does not shrink. Yet, when changing frame > >> sizes we are expected to handle fringes and scrollbars alike: They > >> are no text, they are no windows and therefore should not be counted > >> in the width of the frame's text area. > > > > I think this peculiar handling of the fringes is because of the desire > > to count the display margins, if they are present, as part of the text > > area. > > Then this is a bad desire. Could be, but if we want to change that, we need to come up with some useful idea of how to deal with a situation where you have the fringe between the display margins and the rest of the text area. Surely, in this case you must include the display margins in the window dimensions, but OTOH the fringes separate the window into 2 disjoint areas.