From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17362: 24.4.50; inconsistent key notation: `ESC' vs `' Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 18:29:39 +0300 Message-ID: <83fvkxo4kc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <47b1a857-a5d6-4e5a-b8f6-f96f9e201c89@default> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1398699031 12145 80.91.229.3 (28 Apr 2014 15:30:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 15:30:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 17362@debbugs.gnu.org To: Dani Moncayo Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 28 17:30:24 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WenVc-0002bp-Jt for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2014 17:30:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44546 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WenVc-0002Nc-5g for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2014 11:30:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36097) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WenVT-0002LC-2M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2014 11:30:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WenVN-0001Pa-5c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2014 11:30:10 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:54905) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WenVM-0001Oq-UJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2014 11:30:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WenVL-0007As-Q0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2014 11:30:04 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 15:30:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17362 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 17362-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17362.139869898427526 (code B ref 17362); Mon, 28 Apr 2014 15:30:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 17362) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2014 15:29:44 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44023 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WenV1-00079u-AO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2014 11:29:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:53432) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WenUz-00079d-38 for 17362@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2014 11:29:41 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N4Q00600YSGZS00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 17362@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2014 18:29:34 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N4Q006YRZ19NG80@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Mon, 28 Apr 2014 18:29:34 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:88359 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 16:49:38 +0200 > From: Dani Moncayo > Cc: 17362@debbugs.gnu.org > > > Emacs manual: contrast node `Menu Bar' with node `Quitting'. The former > > writes `ESC ESC ESC'; the latter writes ` '. > > > > IMO, the former is preferable. (Note that (kbd "ESC") and (kbd "") > > both act the same, however.) > > I'd also prefer "ESC" over "" but then other strings like > "", "", "" or "" should also be changed > accordingly. Actually, the distinction should be between "ESC" (or "TAB" or "SPC") the key vs "ESC ESC ESC" the key sequence typed from the keyboard. So not every should suddenly become "FOO", it's a judgment call.