From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: 21472@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#21472: 25.0.50; REGRESSION: (emacs) `Coding Systems' uses curly quotes for Lisp strings
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 20:18:19 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83fv2e706c.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55F98B34.4080703@cs.ucla.edu>
> Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, 21472@debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 08:31:00 -0700
>
> Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > For example, any use of "magic" where no real magic (as in Gandalf
> > coming in and performing it) should be quoted, because the literal
> > meaning is too far-fetched. Likewise in other similar situations,
>
> I'll give you “magic” as that is a gray area, where it's no big deal either way,
> but there are many other quotes that are clearly unnecessary, e.g.:
>
> Some mice have a ``wheel''
It's not a wheel, it's a button whose shape is round and which can be
rotated as well as pressed. Wheels are what cars and bicycles have.
> The @dfn{clipboard} is the facility that most graphical applications use for
> ``cutting and pasting''.
We've always used "cut and paste" in quotes in Emacs, as it's not our
terminology.
> If you exit Emacs while it is the current ``owner'' of the clipboard data,
Emacs doesn't own anything here: clipboard data is not some real
estate or money.
> the @var{predicate} should return non-@code{nil} if the first element is
> ``less'' than the second, or @code{nil} if not.
"Less" here is in the eyes of the beholder; arbitrary objects do not
have intrinsic order or comparison operators. It's our invention.
> Quotes like these are a disservice to the reader: the reader must slow down and
> process them and think “why is this phrase being quoted?” and the answer to that
> question is not worth the cost of the mental processing.
On the contrary, these quotes are most natural, and no such questions
will ever pop up in anyone's mind.
> There is no need to quote the word “push” merely because it is used
> as a noun!
Of course, there is: you don't really "push" anything. "Push" here is
jargon for copying DAG portions from one location to another. A
chapter whose subject is VCS should know better.
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2015-09-13 15:45 bug#21472: 25.0.50; REGRESSION: (emacs) `Coding Systems' uses curly quotes for Lisp strings Drew Adams
2015-09-13 20:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-13 21:11 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-14 6:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-14 14:08 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-15 15:57 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-15 16:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-15 16:22 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-15 23:48 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-15 16:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-15 19:15 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-15 23:48 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-16 6:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-16 7:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-16 7:48 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-16 10:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-15 23:48 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-15 23:48 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-16 7:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-16 7:49 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-16 10:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-16 15:31 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-16 17:18 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-09-16 18:27 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-16 18:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-16 20:31 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-17 4:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-17 5:21 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-17 6:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-17 7:21 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-17 7:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2015-09-15 23:48 ` Drew Adams
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2015-09-16 15:16 ` Drew Adams
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