From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18340: 24.4.50; Bad UI for `find-file-literally' Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 17:47:26 +0300 Message-ID: <83futxkhhd.fsf@gnu.org> References: <9fd1f4c3-a944-4305-9eb5-9f3a877d1b8b@default> <877ffazlhj.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1462373342 32518 80.91.229.3 (4 May 2016 14:49:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 14:49:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 18340@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 04 16:48:50 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1axy6b-00082Q-TK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 16:48:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48362 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axy6Y-0000HO-7f for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 10:48:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34672) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axy68-0008Be-FX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 10:48:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axy5t-0006hQ-8s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 10:48:14 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:53718) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axy5t-0006fP-6A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 10:48:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axy5p-0003eS-Ko for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 10:48:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 14:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18340 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 18340-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18340.146237327114018 (code B ref 18340); Wed, 04 May 2016 14:48:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18340) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 May 2016 14:47:51 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37822 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axy5b-0003dz-Ux for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 10:47:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43392) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axy5Y-0003dk-2b for 18340@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 10:47:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axy5G-0006RE-42 for 18340@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 10:47:35 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:49459) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axy5G-0006QP-1N; Wed, 04 May 2016 10:47:26 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2144 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1axy59-0006UP-Oj; Wed, 04 May 2016 10:47:20 -0400 In-reply-to: <877ffazlhj.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Wed, 04 May 2016 02:59:36 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:117732 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 02:59:36 +0200 > Cc: 18340@debbugs.gnu.org > > Drew Adams writes: > > > Summary: Don't show a multi-line message for prompting `y-or-n-p' > > in the echo area and expect users to see it. > > > > The UI for `find-file-literally' depends on `resize-mini-windows' being > > non-nil. Not a good idea. To see how bad it can be, set > > `resize-mini-windows' to nil, then visit a file, then try to visit it > > using `M-x find-file-literally'. You see only this line in the echo > > area, which is not even a question: > > > > The file foo.el is already visited normally. > > We should perhaps consider obsoleting `resize-mini-windows'. Emacs has > many prompts now that don't make sense in a single line. Those prompts should bind resize-mini-windows non-nil. I don't understand the rest of the bug report, but the specific part about find-file-literally will be definitely fixed by that.