From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23478: 25.0.93; Mouse region selection asymmetry Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2016 18:38:39 +0300 Message-ID: <83furqratc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <878tzky2oe.fsf@gmx.net> <83eg9cecy2.fsf@gnu.org> <87wpn4wgev.fsf@gmx.net> <8360uoe5ye.fsf@gnu.org> <87shxswd5s.fsf@gmx.net> <834ma8e3ll.fsf@gnu.org> <871t3bhbpz.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <87poqun63w.fsf@gmx.net> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1467560370 29818 80.91.229.3 (3 Jul 2016 15:39:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 15:39:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 23478@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net To: Stephen Berman Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 03 17:39:15 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bJjUJ-0006um-8l for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2016 17:39:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43117 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJjUF-0004fs-8V for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2016 11:39:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59634) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJjU9-0004fn-JQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2016 11:39:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJjU6-0001su-3h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2016 11:39:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:51975) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJjU6-0001sp-0C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2016 11:39:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bJjU5-0005vq-S1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2016 11:39:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2016 15:39:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23478 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 23478-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23478.146756033422787 (code B ref 23478); Sun, 03 Jul 2016 15:39:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23478) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jul 2016 15:38:54 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36079 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bJjTx-0005vS-Tw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2016 11:38:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40390) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bJjTw-0005vG-AR for 23478@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2016 11:38:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJjTo-0001lT-1m for 23478@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2016 11:38:47 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:36663) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJjTn-0001lN-UM; Sun, 03 Jul 2016 11:38:43 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4718 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bJjTm-0000c4-O1; Sun, 03 Jul 2016 11:38:43 -0400 In-reply-to: <87poqun63w.fsf@gmx.net> (message from Stephen Berman on Sun, 03 Jul 2016 16:33:55 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:120345 Archived-At: > From: Stephen Berman > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 23478@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2016 16:33:55 +0200 > > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > >>> From: Stephen Berman > >>> Do you really think this should be conditioned by a user option? > >> > >> I do, but let's hear from others. Anyone? > > > > This behaviour seems much preferable to me, since otherwise it's not > > clear which text gets selected. I'm not in favour of adding an option, > > but if there must be one, at least let this new behaviour be the > > default. > > I agree on both points (prefer no option, but if so default to new). > > > Regarding the code, I notice that using (sit-for 0) works as well. > > Thanks. Indeed, even a negative number works. But zero does seem the > least arbitrary. > > > A comment to explain what the calls are for would be nice. > > I'll do that when the final version is settled on. Eli, John, what's > the decision on making this behavior customizable (and if yes, what > default)? I think backward-incompatible behavior should almost always be opt-in, unless we have no choice.