From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4157: 23.1.50; faulty character characterisation for =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=A4?= Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 14:20:22 +0300 Message-ID: <83ftk0sv7t.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83blupt6cd.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="38833"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: Peter_Dyballa@freenet.de, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 4157@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 10 13:21:12 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iIWVL-0009sa-HA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 13:21:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36142 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iIWVK-0003kG-9O for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 07:21:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48730) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iIWVE-0003k4-65 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 07:21:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iIWVD-0000fk-9N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 07:21:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:46312) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iIWVD-0000fU-6O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 07:21:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iIWVC-00068h-RX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 07:21:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 11:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 4157 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 4157-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B4157.157070644923461 (code B ref 4157); Thu, 10 Oct 2019 11:21:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 4157) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Oct 2019 11:20:49 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55133 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iIWUy-00066H-8k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 07:20:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39566) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iIWUv-00065C-L3 for 4157@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 07:20:46 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37284) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iIWUp-0000Hn-Ir; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 07:20:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2074 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iIWUo-0003ph-Mw; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 07:20:39 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Kangas on Thu, 10 Oct 2019 12:36:29 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:168864 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 12:36:29 +0200 > Cc: Stefan Monnier , Peter Dyballa , > 4157@debbugs.gnu.org > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > > -rw-r--r-- 1 skangas staff 0 10 Okt 01:59 März > > > drwxr-xr-x 3 skangas staff 96 10 M?r 2017 foobar > > > > Please redirect the output to a file, and look at the file with > > hexl-find-file. What do you see in the place where there's a question > > mark above? > > This file is from March 2018: > > >00000e30: 6865 656c 2020 2020 3730 3420 3234 204d heel 704 24 M > >00000e40: e472 2020 3230 3138 204f 6e42 6f61 7264 .r 2018 OnBoard > >00000e50: 696e 6742 756e 646c 6573 0a64 7277 7872 ingBundles.drwxr Like Andreas says, the dates are in Latin-9, but the file names are in UTF-8 (probably utf-8-hfs). Maybe we should on macOS override the locale when we invoke 'ls'? And I repeat my question: how about using ls-lisp.el on macOS by default?