From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#43269: 28.0.50; [feature/native-comp] provide a user feedback on Emacs being native compiled Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2020 17:30:42 +0300 Message-ID: <83ft7smjcd.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83wo15msrj.fsf@gnu.org> <83tuw9mmfe.fsf@gnu.org> <83sgbtm2d3.fsf@gnu.org> <062E9DA2-B039-4AAD-802B-7333971F5B73@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18574"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: arthur.miller@live.com, 43269@debbugs.gnu.org To: Andrea Corallo Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 08 16:31:16 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kFeeS-0004k6-Lb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 16:31:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47726 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFeeR-0005oc-LL for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 10:31:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39646) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFeeE-0005aQ-5Z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 10:31:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:44230) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFeeD-0007p7-ST for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 10:31:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kFeeD-00023b-Q5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 10:31:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2020 14:31:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 43269 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-Debbugs-Original-Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, arthur.miller@live.com Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.15995754477886 (code B ref -1); Tue, 08 Sep 2020 14:31:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Sep 2020 14:30:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55776 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kFedy-000238-OP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 10:30:46 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:40692) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kFedx-000231-0P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 10:30:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39610) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFedw-000570-IE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 10:30:44 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:40738) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFedw-0007hV-4e; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 10:30:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4942 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kFedu-0006DI-Jp; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 10:30:43 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Andrea Corallo on Tue, 08 Sep 2020 08:03:06 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:187558 Archived-At: > From: Andrea Corallo > Cc: Arthur Miller , bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2020 08:03:06 +0000 > > As suggested opening a new issue to keep on discussing what came-up from > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2020-09/msg00637.html > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > [...] > > > That's a different issue. The original question was about the splash > > screen and specifically about emacs-version. I see no reason > > whatsoever to show information about the native compilation there, as > > it's a minor feature that moreover has no effect at all until some > > Lisp files are compiled with it. > > For completeness: ATM all code that was byte compiled gets native > compiled automatically. For this reason it *has* an effect since Emacs > starts. As mentioned on the bug list, I'd prefer if user could defer native compilation to some later time, so as to avoid making the Emacs build take hours, especially on slow and low-end machines. > If it's more or less important than say using Cairo that's very much a > POV I think, as I believe is classifying it as "minor feature" (reason > why I'd avoid). Maybe Cairo is also not important enough, and should be removed. GTK (or the toolkit in general) _is_ important, as it has radical effect on the GUI appearance.