From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#46627: [External] : bug#46627: [PATCH] Add new help command 'describe-command' Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2021 09:44:53 +0200 Message-ID: <83ft1r18ui.fsf@gnu.org> References: <835z2o4fes.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16026"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 46627@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 20 08:46:10 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lDMxu-00043T-E3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 08:46:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40032 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDMxs-0006gl-VS for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 02:46:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41536) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDMxm-0006gQ-7F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 02:46:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:39344) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDMxl-0000Hy-W3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 02:46:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lDMxl-0004t3-TO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 02:46:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2021 07:46:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 46627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 46627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B46627.161380711718727 (code B ref 46627); Sat, 20 Feb 2021 07:46:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 46627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Feb 2021 07:45:17 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50890 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lDMx3-0004rz-3k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 02:45:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:51812) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lDMx0-0004rh-GW for 46627@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 02:45:16 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:40277) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDMwv-0008JV-1f; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 02:45:09 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1188 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lDMwt-00062Q-Rn; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 02:45:08 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Fri, 19 Feb 2021 21:25:27 -0600) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:200401 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 21:25:27 -0600 > Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , "46627@debbugs.gnu.org" <46627@debbugs.gnu.org> > > I see your point regarding #2, but thinking about it a bit I think it is > preferable to have an easier keybinding than `C-u C-h f' for commands. Indeed. Help commands must be simple and should not use any fancy mechanisms that are likely to evade newbies. We have the F1 binding for that very reason. IMO, adding arguments to Help commands when the respective direct commands are already available is just creeping featurism.