From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#48478: 28.0.50; yank-from-kill-ring and kill-ring-yank-pointer Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 05:30:40 +0300 Message-ID: <83fsyjqwtr.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83h7j1twym.fsf@gnu.org> <874kf1yq92.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83o8d8s1jd.fsf@gnu.org> <878s4bzt6v.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33313"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 48478@debbugs.gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed May 19 04:31:14 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ljBzO-0008Xh-Nv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 19 May 2021 04:31:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44156 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ljBzN-0007hQ-BY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 22:31:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48662) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ljBzC-0007hH-Ot for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 22:31:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:46111) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ljBzC-0002ab-GR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 22:31:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ljBzC-0004pt-D1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 22:31:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 02:31:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 48478 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 48478-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B48478.162139144118563 (code B ref 48478); Wed, 19 May 2021 02:31:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 48478) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 May 2021 02:30:41 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57657 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ljByq-0004pL-Mz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 22:30:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54954) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ljByp-0004p7-Ew for 48478@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 22:30:39 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33452) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ljByj-0002OJ-6S; Tue, 18 May 2021 22:30:33 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4019 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ljByi-0004mU-J1; Tue, 18 May 2021 22:30:33 -0400 In-Reply-To: <878s4bzt6v.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Tue, 18 May 2021 23:24:24 +0300) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:206852 Archived-At: > From: Juri Linkov > Cc: 48478@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 23:24:24 +0300 > > >> This is an unfinished feature, i.e. currently yank-from-kill-ring > >> simply has no special handling of kill-ring-yank-pointer. > >> When I tried to add it, I noticed that it has many possible > >> variants of implementation, so I stuck with analysis paralysis. > > > > Why do we need variants? why not simply do the same as M-y does after > > C-y or M-y? After all, from the user's POV it's the same command, so > > why not provide a consistent behavior? > > No one objected until now, so there are users who prefer the current behavior. Well, I objected the first time I used this feature after learning about it. The reason is that what M-y does after C-y is described in the manual, so I wanted to see what this new feature does, and was puzzled by what it did. > But I don't disagree with changing the default to use kill-ring-yank-pointer. Let's please do that, TIA.