From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21695: [External] : bug#21695: 25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to `customize-set-variable'? Really? Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2021 20:17:02 +0300 Message-ID: <83fsumzylt.fsf@gnu.org> References: <97d3ff2c-9e72-4004-88a9-08130ac99a74@default> <838s0fpixr.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29105"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 21695@debbugs.gnu.org, hmelman@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 02 19:18:09 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mLqLp-0007L2-JZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 02 Sep 2021 19:18:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56546 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mLqLo-0005FV-3Z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 02 Sep 2021 13:18:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57164) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mLqLj-0005FI-0m for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Sep 2021 13:18:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:58658) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mLqLi-0006uI-NM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Sep 2021 13:18:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mLqLi-0006ZL-Gm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Sep 2021 13:18:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2021 17:18:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21695 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 21695-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21695.163060303925202 (code B ref 21695); Thu, 02 Sep 2021 17:18:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21695) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Sep 2021 17:17:19 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41971 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mLqL1-0006YQ-JF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Sep 2021 13:17:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40934) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mLqL0-0006YD-DA for 21695@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Sep 2021 13:17:18 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42934) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mLqKu-0006GC-QR; Thu, 02 Sep 2021 13:17:12 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1976 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mLqKn-0004Hm-Vt; Thu, 02 Sep 2021 13:17:06 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Thu, 2 Sep 2021 17:08:01 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:213296 Archived-At: > From: Drew Adams > CC: "21695@debbugs.gnu.org" <21695@debbugs.gnu.org>, > "hmelman@gmail.com" > > Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2021 17:08:01 +0000 > > > An option which cannot be usefully change via setq > > mentions that in its doc string (or at least it > > should; if it doesn't, that's a documentation bug), > > Yes, but what about 3rd-party code that doesn't > bother saying that in doc strings? Sure, it's > wrong; but does that recommendation solve the > problem? Our manual documents Emacs, not every piece of Lisp out there. If customizable options in 3rd-party packages need different instructions, the developers of those packages should document them.