From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#52053: 29.0.50; Nonsensical button "C-x C-f" in scratch buffer Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2021 15:20:03 +0200 Message-ID: <83fsrk5q4c.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87czmr5gr7.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87czmr5gr7.fsf@yahoo.com> <612d659daa29af13c2e5@heytings.org> <83y25c5wn0.fsf@gnu.org> <612d659daabc268505c4@heytings.org> <83pmqo5vmp.fsf@gnu.org> <87y25c766v.fsf@gmail.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24892"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, gregory@heytings.org, 52053@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 25 14:21:39 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mqEh0-0006GG-Sk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 14:21:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44564 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mqEgz-0005l5-B9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 08:21:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36946) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mqEgR-0005hU-9p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 08:21:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:44616) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mqEgQ-0007sk-DU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 08:21:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mqEgQ-000234-45 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 08:21:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2021 13:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 52053 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 52053-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B52053.16378464147790 (code B ref 52053); Thu, 25 Nov 2021 13:21:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 52053) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Nov 2021 13:20:14 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56162 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mqEfe-00021a-Ji for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 08:20:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35948) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mqEfc-00021I-Ma for 52053@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 08:20:13 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=41120 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mqEfS-0007aK-TG; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 08:20:06 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=64QhLhOlQW9ln4yk1pn54xragzD178pgptgPyJMtPkU=; b=pc5BrmBuWsTv 50aE85H/V/nc4Pi67esmKBe+AvWIyAu8KSJKGGY+Z7x4ftFdBxbT5v62Fea9fHaEpg/oJJrO4X3ac 6n4qT9W3cgBYbauLZWi7aPu23knAF+OQ/pp5eRdv0zP87PA5MQybuHQvlMbKuLylJ1YqEwlCYxRbc kO6vBQIIGWd2BsCc/V8Nu0h918uQbZ8JT8fy6H74vmJi+23leEubFl7VTpUvle+zgbpies8ouRoKJ pxdwkMGoc86k6DA+BWXe0KUKS/uAQ/4sA0ImNxVQ/S3P21B/UHglW/aYEmnaYeZ0Ktuz9bNs/tTwb KBm0FskiS63flNnoTSDZxA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2536 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mqEfR-0006mh-Ia; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 08:20:02 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87y25c766v.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Thu, 25 Nov 2021 13:47:36 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:220825 Archived-At: > From: Robert Pluim > Cc: Gregory Heytings , luangruo@yahoo.com, > larsi@gnus.org, 52053@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2021 13:47:36 +0100 > > >>>>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 13:21:02 +0200, Eli Zaretskii said: > > Eli> Yes, but that's somewhat blunt a weapon, I think. My idea was to > Eli> maybe let the caller decide whether this is wanted or not, if we are > Eli> going to use substitute-command-keys in way more contexts than it was > Eli> originally meant to. > > Callers can just bind help-link-key-to-documentation to nil, no? What > am I missing> Maybe we should make it nil by default and have Help commands bind it to non-nil.