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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Olivier Certner <ocert.dev@free.fr>
Cc: 63072@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#63072: 28.2; CC Mode: Fix "bsd" style and add "freebsd" and "openbsd" ones
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 16:32:21 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83fs8mu5ui.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5569144.NofZdxuNk6@ravel> (message from Olivier Certner on Wed,  26 Apr 2023 15:09:21 +0200)

> From: Olivier Certner <ocert.dev@free.fr>
> Cc: 63072@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 15:09:21 +0200
> 
> > If the styles don't change in practice, then I'm okay with adding
> > them.  But then I wonder why you bothered to mention the fact that
> > they do change.
> 
> I thought this was clear, but apparently not. I mentioned the possibility of a 
> change, yes, because you and I care about backwards compatibility. To quote 
> you: "I don't think we can change a style that was in use for such a long 
> time".
> 
> There may be changes in the project styles, maybe next month, maybe in ten 
> years, maybe in twenty. I do not think the probability is 0 over such a long 
> period of time. What I would not want is you or someone else telling me in 10 
> or 20 years, after such a change: "I don't think we can change a style that 
> was in use for such a long time". What I want instead is that, e.g., "freebsd" 
> can be changed as necessary. I specifically do not want to then be told to 
> create another style named "freebsd2" or whatever. For that to be possible, 
> users must be warned that these styles, although almost always stable, are 
> not, and will not, be set in stone for eternity, contrary to, perhaps, "bsd" 
> or "whitesmith". And I even offered a scheme with additional styles that will 
> never change, if you think that is useful (I think it might be and is so cheap 
> to implement that I think we should do it anyway, even if in the end nobody 
> uses it).
> 
> Is that clear now?

Given all that, I'm not sure we should single out these new styles at
all.  Once in 10 years any constant is eligible for a change.





  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-26 13:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-25 17:49 bug#63072: 28.2; CC Mode: Fix "bsd" style and add "freebsd" and "openbsd" ones Olivier Certner
2023-04-25 18:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-25 20:57   ` Olivier Certner
2023-04-26  5:50     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-26  7:28       ` Olivier Certner
2023-04-26  9:13         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-26  9:31           ` Olivier Certner
2023-04-26 10:31             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-26 13:09               ` Olivier Certner
2023-04-26 13:32                 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-04-26 13:53                   ` Olivier Certner
2023-04-26 16:07                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-05 16:01                       ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-15 12:41                       ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-19 16:15                         ` Olivier Certner
2023-09-21 15:22                           ` Stefan Kangas

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