From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#67810: 29.1; fonts use synthetic bold on Linux / pgtk Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2024 10:37:13 +0200 Message-ID: <83frz3j6bq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <0719018bb386e840efaa655b7c0b765ece9cd9ff.camel@timruffing.de> <83le9ys2d3.fsf@gnu.org> <3ebaf489f6dad748258c7fb01d3200b674ebb1f1.camel@timruffing.de> <83h6kmrzkz.fsf@gnu.org> <7ea3f7db448191f2b9886604084abe84d0caaf61.camel@timruffing.de> <83y1dxqm46.fsf@gnu.org> <83le9xqewb.fsf@gnu.org> <87h6klja8c.fsf@yahoo.com> <723b91276f83652bc6867f95630e1057c05ffb26.camel@timruffing.de> <87ttnj2uj6.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18986"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: crypto@timruffing.de, 67810@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com To: Po Lu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 12 09:38:18 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rOD3S-0004hw-5y for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2024 09:38:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rOD3H-0004JI-RV; Fri, 12 Jan 2024 03:38:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rOD3E-0004J1-Pl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2024 03:38:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rOD3D-0007mJ-Ux for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2024 03:38:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rOD3B-00086Q-Ol for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2024 03:38:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2024 08:38:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 67810 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 67810-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B67810.170504867031129 (code B ref 67810); Fri, 12 Jan 2024 08:38:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 67810) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jan 2024 08:37:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34856 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rOD2z-000861-Ph for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2024 03:37:50 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59978) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rOD2x-00085n-E2 for 67810@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2024 03:37:48 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rOD2t-0007de-DQ; Fri, 12 Jan 2024 03:37:43 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=AkAwHIvEMGP9ftAR/oNF7E5J8bNp+BHKEIE8EjfnIrk=; b=KfuDVNoous2e koe6s4tPObppfGRiTXWO5eT1/P7bskwOFyjOwSjlLKSVlNIDBeLLFK59UQn5GX0tBfyXuiPq12Now uVXzlJUwcceMUFDRDTADFiyBcfb503pL2+lctuwoONjceA+XpSEkIQPubHPnTw4LiRbKRLhmTJ0KA AwZXGUdMrLJ1zaP8HAJwTx3LmJhH8Dt8ROCAu615cemdt8Wo82UwSDmNqTDOyQyZ0TcNNGfBvuKTT A6h4XJINhIQpVt6fa2/tsPLRByhRe4t5gEHeGFZ/eiMkHY1iNvasgHcDr2JJTwjlyPvKehff8Eu9B KJmay85o6Xv1hqUIlx7lcA==; In-Reply-To: <87ttnj2uj6.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Fri, 12 Jan 2024 09:46:21 +0800) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:278003 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Cc: Stefan Kangas , Eli Zaretskii , > 67810@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2024 09:46:21 +0800 > > Tim Ruffing writes: > > > @Po Lu: > > Independent of icons, I still think that overstriking is a bit > > unexpected. (I mean, even Eli didn't know about it.) I see that a font > > regex is too much, but do you think a simple boolean option would be a > > good idea? Or do you think the current behavior should simply be > > documented more prominently? > > I think this is a mechanism users should not understand in this much > technical detail, because font backends might synthesize their bold or > oblique variants by other means when one is requested from a font that > doesn't provide them. Rather, users should understand that Emacs will > seek to display bold text when they specify it should, and that text > which isn't meant to be bold text should not receive text properties > labeling it as such. Would it make sense to introduce a variable that disables synthesizing bold or oblique font variants?