From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#5809: 23.1.94; cross-reference by anchor yields in accurate position Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 23:47:57 +0300 Message-ID: <83eiivymf6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <837hoszubi.fsf@gnu.org> <87hbnwy2un.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <83y6h8xz8a.fsf@gnu.org> <8739zf5bif.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <83y6h7vy6p.fsf@gnu.org> <87y6h7uitd.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <83wrwqx6r2.fsf@gnu.org> <83vdcax5hu.fsf@gnu.org> <83sk7ewcvz.fsf@gnu.org> <422BAD8C75BE4F5BAE608BD47A355EFF@us.oracle.com> <83d3yhx6jr.fsf@gnu.org> <83C1972058E043DB8B80FEFB5A317A98@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1270414582 6386 80.91.229.12 (4 Apr 2010 20:56:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 20:56:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 5809@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 04 22:56:18 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NyWrh-0007cD-P8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 22:56:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48089 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NyWrh-0005Yu-6d for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 16:56:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NyWrQ-0005Ut-Fd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 16:56:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=56448 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NyWrO-0005UL-Ur for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 16:56:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NyWrN-0001cP-6I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 16:55:58 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:57295) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NyWrN-0001cL-4o for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 16:55:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NyWkg-0001qz-Gk; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 16:49:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 20:49:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 5809 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 5809-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5809.12704141177119 (code B ref 5809); Sun, 04 Apr 2010 20:49:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 5809) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Apr 2010 20:48:37 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NyWkG-0001qm-VN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 16:48:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NyWkE-0001qh-ME for 5809@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 16:48:35 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0L0D00700DKTJA00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 5809@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 23:47:52 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.124.92.42]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0L0D006KJDRRMF20@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 23:47:52 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <83C1972058E043DB8B80FEFB5A317A98@us.oracle.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 16:49:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:35930 Archived-At: > From: "Drew Adams" > Cc: <5809@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 13:39:00 -0700 > > Also, *in practice* this is a *rare* problem. You are making a mountain out of a > mole hill. Drew, please try being objective. You were one of the main pushers for introducing the breadcrumbs feature, so it's understandable that you have bias, but please try to hold it back. > In truth, Eli's dramatic characterization of this problem as "a PITA" and > > you are placed in the middle of a sentence that, > more often than not, has nothing to do with the > subject you are after. > > is quite overblown and inaccurate. It is simply not the case, except in rare > cases. Well, perhaps I happen to hit only those ``rare cases'', because it happens all the time to me. The amount of offset depends on how many other nodes you visited in the same sub-file, so it's somewhat unpredictable. Anyway, Juri is actively working on a solution for this bug, and almost has it done, so this argument is pointless and unnecessary.