From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6866: mule-cmds.el just _assumes_ all of Taiwan uses Big5 and not UTF-8 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:41:44 +0300 Message-ID: <83eidysbdz.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4C694638.6000006@gnu.org> <87bp92mvbc.fsf@jidanni.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281982145 4964 80.91.229.12 (16 Aug 2010 18:09:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 18:09:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 6866@debbugs.gnu.org To: jidanni@jidanni.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 16 20:09:04 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ol47L-0004m8-0I for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:09:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57059 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ol47K-0000pl-7r for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:09:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=37539 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ol479-0000mT-9I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:08:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ol477-0004tC-M4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:08:51 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:40655) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ol477-0004t8-JY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:08:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ol3j8-0004sJ-B4; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 13:44:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 17:44:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6866 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 6866-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6866.128198060218726 (code B ref 6866); Mon, 16 Aug 2010 17:44:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6866) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Aug 2010 17:43:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ol3iU-0004rz-0b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 13:43:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ol3iR-0004ru-Ao for 6866@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 13:43:20 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0L7900400AJAAY00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 6866@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:43:45 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.220.100]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0L790047IAKW1E90@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:43:45 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87bp92mvbc.fsf@jidanni.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 13:44:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:39548 Archived-At: > From: jidanni@jidanni.org > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 23:27:51 +0800 > Cc: 6866@debbugs.gnu.org > > Many users will say: didn't I make a big effort years ago to totally > convert my environment? Why do I still have traces of big5 hanging > around? Users should not look into the code unless they actually read it (as opposed to grep them with some random string) and understand what the code does. > Perhaps there should be a more neutral name used. Since it seems what > you are calling Chinese-Big5 does not have much to do with > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Chinese#Computer_encoding > after all. It _is_ a name of an encoding, just the Emacs name. It just isn't used in the way you thought.