From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#11999: 24.1.50; New Info file suffix ".info" breaks `Info-find-node-2' Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 18:16:34 +0300 Message-ID: <83eho325d9.fsf@gnu.org> References: <30361DAB51FE4AC487EBA7C11AACB36C@us.oracle.com> <831uk688pk.fsf@gnu.org> <35D365A3D0D0487CB7928FB2A672541D@us.oracle.com> <83sjcl7b5w.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1342970259 26451 80.91.229.3 (22 Jul 2012 15:17:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:17:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 11999@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 22 17:17:38 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ssxuc-0001F4-Cc for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 17:17:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36285 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ssxub-0003Pw-Iq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 11:17:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38666) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SsxuZ-0003Pg-6A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 11:17:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SsxuX-0002re-FR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 11:17:35 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:48217) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SsxuX-0002rO-C3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 11:17:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ssy0n-0002V9-Vp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 11:24:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:24:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11999 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 11999-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11999.13429705879551 (code B ref 11999); Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:24:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 11999) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jul 2012 15:23:07 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57763 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ssxzu-0002U0-Fj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 11:23:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:42028) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ssxzr-0002Ti-Pj for 11999@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 11:23:04 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0M7K00100I1GFG00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for 11999@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 18:16:33 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.210.75]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0M7K001NWIFK42B0@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 18:16:32 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:62273 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Drew Adams , 11999@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 05:50:29 -0400 > > > The doc string IMO does not tell enough, and there's no other > > documentation about user-error, neither in the ELisp manual nor in > > NEWS (which only mentions its existence). > > Can you be specific about what additional info you need? Just what you wrote below. (Thanks.) > > Stefan, could you perhaps provide some insight? What is a "pilot > > error" in this context, > > A error of the user rather than of the author of the code. What about an error condition that is neither of these two? Or are you saying that an error must be one of these two, and nothing else? > >> An index lookup that finds no hit is NOT "expected to be the result of an > >> incorrect manipulation on the part of the user, rather than the result of an > >> actual problem." > > By "actual problem", I meant "a bug in the code", i.e. a problem that > can be fixed by correcting the code. But it isn't a user error, either. Perhaps we should find a better name for that, as long as it isn't too late.