From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16292: 24.3.50; info docs now contain single straight quotes instead of `' Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 22:08:45 +0200 Message-ID: <83eh4u14qa.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20131229220810.GF7972@boo.workgroup> <52C0E734.4090403@cs.ucla.edu> <83sita1cbw.fsf@gnu.org> <52C1C456.2080004@cs.ucla.edu> <83fvpa16kh.fsf@gnu.org> <87vby6gm0n.fsf@igel.home> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1388434154 31208 80.91.229.3 (30 Dec 2013 20:09:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 20:09:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, grfz@gmx.de, 16292@debbugs.gnu.org To: Andreas Schwab Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 30 21:09:15 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vxj9H-0001td-Ee for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 21:09:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59634 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vxj9G-00062I-VL for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 15:09:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35908) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vxj9A-0005yq-0s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 15:09:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vxj95-0006Ur-4N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 15:09:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:39148) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vxj95-0006Ul-0z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 15:09:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vxj94-0007WH-3Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 15:09:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 20:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16292 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16292-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16292.138843414128896 (code B ref 16292); Mon, 30 Dec 2013 20:09:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16292) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2013 20:09:01 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53167 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vxj91-0007Vw-Tj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 15:09:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:35258) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vxj8z-0007Vk-2M for 16292@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 15:08:58 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MYM00300YM0UE00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 16292@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 22:08:55 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MYM003GWYMUL290@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 22:08:55 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <87vby6gm0n.fsf@igel.home> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:82767 Archived-At: > From: Andreas Schwab > Cc: Paul Eggert , grfz@gmx.de, 16292@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 20:46:16 +0100 > > The info reader should really recode the info file into the locale's > encoding on the fly (and info files should always be encoded in UTF-8). You mean, the Emacs Info reader? It already does that on a TTY, using terminal-coding-system. But the problem is that these Unicode quotes cannot be encoded in most (all?) non-UTF encodings. We could replace those characters via display tables. But these solutions are only for the Emacs Info reader; the stand-alone reader doesn't do anything like that, it simply dumps the bytes to the screen, assuming the text is in the current locale's encoding. > It doesn't make sense any more to use Latin-1. We originally produced ASCII emulations of the non-ASCII characters used by the names of contributors in ack.texi etc., but then decided to show them more respect by using Latin. That's how it all started.