* bug#23432: 25.0.93; Email from Gnus now going out with Message-IDs @gmail.com
@ 2016-05-03 7:34 N. Jackson
2016-05-03 20:13 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: N. Jackson @ 2016-05-03 7:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 23432
Emails going out from my computer from Gnus now have Message-IDs ending
in @gmail.com. Previously the Message-IDs ended in
@moondust.localdomain, where moondust is my computer.
Looking back at my sent messages, the change happened on or around
2016-01-31. This corresponds with the date when I went from Emacs 24 to
the Emacs 25.0.90 pretest.
Possibly relevant: My default SMTP server is on Gmail. (But then it
always was.) However, I am also getting these @gmail.com Message-IDs on
messages not sent out through a Gmail SMTP server.
In GNU Emacs 25.0.93.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.18.9)
of 2016-04-26 built on moondust
Repository revision: 5c587fdff164e8b90beb47f6da64b4884290e40a
Windowing system distributor 'Fedora Project', version 11.0.11803000
System Description: Fedora release 23 (Twenty Three)
Configured using:
'configure CFLAGS=-O3'
Configured features:
XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND DBUS GCONF GSETTINGS NOTIFY
ACL LIBSELINUX GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11
Important settings:
value of $LC_MONETARY: en_DK.utf8
value of $LC_NUMERIC: en_DK.utf8
value of $LC_TIME: en_DK.utf8
value of $LANG: en_CA.UTF-8
value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus
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Major mode: Group
Minor modes in effect:
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gnus-undo-mode: t
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display-battery-mode: t
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show-paren-mode: t
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save-place-mode: t
electric-pair-mode: t
desktop-save-mode: t
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Retrieving newsgroup: nnfolder+archive:sent.2016-01...
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* bug#23432: 25.0.93; Email from Gnus now going out with Message-IDs @gmail.com
2016-05-03 7:34 bug#23432: 25.0.93; Email from Gnus now going out with Message-IDs @gmail.com N. Jackson
@ 2016-05-03 20:13 ` Glenn Morris
2016-05-04 0:59 ` N. Jackson
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2016-05-03 20:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: N. Jackson; +Cc: 23432
Please try edebugging message-make-fqdn to see what is going on.
Eg:
(require 'message)
C-h f message-make-fqdn RET
Follow link to source.
C-u M-x eval-defun
M-: (message-make-fqdn)
Step through with SPC
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* bug#23432: 25.0.93; Email from Gnus now going out with Message-IDs @gmail.com
2016-05-03 20:13 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2016-05-04 0:59 ` N. Jackson
2016-05-04 14:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: N. Jackson @ 2016-05-04 0:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 23432
At 16:13 -0400 on Tuesday 2016-05-03, Glenn Morris wrote:
>
> Please try edebugging message-make-fqdn to see what is going on.
Thanks Glenn.
* The problem is `system-name'
So it turns out that the change in behaviour is coming from a lower
level, from the function `system-name'
* Message-ID is being set as documented
Emacs is working as documented in (info "(message) News Headers"):
‘Message-ID’
This required header will be generated by Message. A unique ID
will be created based on the date, time, user name (for the local
part) and the domain part. For the domain part, message will look
(in this order) at ‘message-user-fqdn’, ‘system-name’,
‘mail-host-address’ and ‘message-user-mail-address’ (i.e.,
‘user-mail-address’) until a probably valid fully qualified domain
name (FQDN) was found.
The first thing that looked at for a domain name is
`message-user-fqdn' which is nil on my system. Then `system-name' is
looked at.
On Emacs 24.5 `system-name' returns "moondust.localdomain". This
satisfies the search, and the Message-ID is reported as
xyz@moondust.localdomain (for some value xyz). This is what I have grown
to expect.
On Emacs 25.0.93 `system-name' returns "moondust". This does not satisfy
the search and so `mail-host-address' is looked at, but it is nil.
Finally, `message-user-mail-address' is tried. When Gnus has started,
this evaluates to my default email address "nljlistbox2@gmail.com", and
so the Message-ID becomes xyz@gmail.com.
* Undesirable behaviour
This is undesirable, and is especially embarrassing when I send mail from
a non-gmail email address through a non-gmail SMTP server -- it still
shows a Message-ID xyz@gmail.com!
* Potential workaround
Naturally, I can work around the change in behaviour by setting
`message-user-fqdn', or possibly (?) by changing my system's host name,
or possibly by setting `mail-host-address'.
* If there is to be no fix, is a NEWS item warranted?
However, if the new behaviour is not going to be "fixed", then I think
the change should be reported in NEWS. After all, this is rather
embarrassing and it is not immediately obvious that there's a problem --
my emails have been going out like that since the end of January and I
only noticed today.
* Is it a bug?
What is not clear to me, is if the new behaviour of `system-name' is a
bug or if it fixes a bug in Emacs 24. After all, IIUC my actual hostname is
moondust, not moondust.localhost. In any case, I expect the change of
behaviour is related to this entry in NEWS:
** Function 'system-name' now returns an updated value if the current
system's name has changed or if the Emacs process has changed systems,
and to avoid long waits it no longer consults DNS to canonicalize the
name. The variable 'system-name' is now obsolete.
* A far worse problem
There is a much much worse consequence, though. If I don't start Gnus,
and send an email directly with message, then
`message-user-mail-address' is nil and `message-make-fqdn' falls through
to its default value for the domain name, and the Message-ID becomes
(IIUC) xyz@i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me which is far
more embarrassing and unacceptable than xyz@gmail.com! I see this string
emerge for example, if I run report-emacs-bug before starting Gnus.
Emacs 24 was immune to this problem.
N.
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* bug#23432: 25.0.93; Email from Gnus now going out with Message-IDs @gmail.com
2016-05-04 0:59 ` N. Jackson
@ 2016-05-04 14:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-04 16:26 ` N. Jackson
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2016-05-04 14:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: N. Jackson; +Cc: 23432
> From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson)
> Date: Tue, 03 May 2016 21:59:56 -0300
> Cc: 23432@debbugs.gnu.org
>
>
> * If there is to be no fix, is a NEWS item warranted?
It's already there, no?
>
> However, if the new behaviour is not going to be "fixed", then I think
> the change should be reported in NEWS. After all, this is rather
> embarrassing and it is not immediately obvious that there's a problem --
> my emails have been going out like that since the end of January and I
> only noticed today.
>
>
> * Is it a bug?
>
> What is not clear to me, is if the new behaviour of `system-name' is a
> bug or if it fixes a bug in Emacs 24.
See bug #19438.
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* bug#23432: 25.0.93; Email from Gnus now going out with Message-IDs @gmail.com
2016-05-04 14:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2016-05-04 16:26 ` N. Jackson
2016-05-04 17:26 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: N. Jackson @ 2016-05-04 16:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 23432
Hi Eli,
At 17:50 +0300 on Wednesday 2016-05-04, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>>
>> If there is to be no fix, is a NEWS item warranted?
>
> It's already there, no?
No, it is not. (Looking at the emacs-25 branch as of a few minutes ago,
commit f559b374a30f3615261f7a902fc3428cac6289f4). The only entries under
Gnus and under Message Mode are about images. And there is nothing
relevant under incompatible changes.
The issue is that with the change to the behaviour of `system-name', a
random side effect is that users who's email configurations have worked
properly for years may now have inappropriate (possibly very
inappropriate) strings embedded in their mail headers unbeknownst to
them.
I'm not familiar enough with Message nor with NEWS to know how this
should be worded, but for me something like the following under Gnus and
Message would have told me what I needed to know. (Provided that it is
a) correct, and b) this is the best way of doing things.)
Users relying on `system-name' to return a stable and fully-qualified
domain name for the setting of Message-ID are advised that it may no
longer do so reliably. It is suggested that they set the variable
`message-user-fqdn' explicitly. See the node "News Headers" in the
Message manual (`M-: (info "(message) News Headers")') for more details.
> See bug #19438.
Thank you for pointing me to that. I don't think I have an opinion on
that. But the fact remains that this change to `system-name' has had a
surprising impact on the return value from `message-make-fqdn'.
N.
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* bug#23432: 25.0.93; Email from Gnus now going out with Message-IDs @gmail.com
2016-05-04 16:26 ` N. Jackson
@ 2016-05-04 17:26 ` Glenn Morris
2016-05-04 18:31 ` N. Jackson
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2016-05-04 17:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 23432-done
I added a sentence to NEWS.
(Should name.localdomain even have counted as valid for a message-id in
the first place? The point is to be unique.)
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* bug#23432: 25.0.93; Email from Gnus now going out with Message-IDs @gmail.com
2016-05-04 17:26 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2016-05-04 18:31 ` N. Jackson
2016-05-04 21:27 ` Phillip Lord
2016-05-04 22:15 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: N. Jackson @ 2016-05-04 18:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 23432
At 13:26 -0400 on Wednesday 2016-05-04, Glenn Morris wrote:
>
> I added a sentence to NEWS.
Thanks Glenn.
However, I don't believe this is enough.
This is an extremely egregious flaw. Inserting an inappropriate string like
"i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me" in Emacs users' email
messages, without asking their permission and without informing them, is
unacceptable.
If the "fix" is to document the danger in NEWS, then it should be in the
sections on Message and Gnus. No one is going to think to look under
`system-name'. After all, even the person who made this change to
`system-name' clearly didn't make the connection that it would effect
users's Message-IDs; there's no reason to expect a casual email user to
make that connection.
> (Should name.localdomain even have counted as valid for a message-id in
> the first place? The point is to be unique.)
Well, that's just the suffix of the Message-ID. The full thing would be,
for example, something like 877ff9dc26.fsf@moondust.localhost. Clearly
not unique like a GUID, but having a high probability of uniqueness.
N.
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* bug#23432: 25.0.93; Email from Gnus now going out with Message-IDs @gmail.com
2016-05-04 18:31 ` N. Jackson
@ 2016-05-04 21:27 ` Phillip Lord
2016-05-05 0:10 ` N. Jackson
2016-05-04 22:15 ` Glenn Morris
1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Phillip Lord @ 2016-05-04 21:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: N. Jackson; +Cc: 23432
nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) writes:
> At 13:26 -0400 on Wednesday 2016-05-04, Glenn Morris wrote:
>>
>> I added a sentence to NEWS.
>
> Thanks Glenn.
>
> However, I don't believe this is enough.
>
> This is an extremely egregious flaw. Inserting an inappropriate string like
> "i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me" in Emacs users' email
> messages, without asking their permission and without informing them, is
> unacceptable.
Still, you've got to laugh...
It is supposed to check, though:
(message-check 'shoot
(if (re-search-forward
"Message-ID.*.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me" nil t)
(y-or-n-p "You appear to have a misconfigured system. Really post? ")
t))
So, I wonder why that is failing. Even if the message were less
whimsical, the fallback is supposed to have been captured.
Phil
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* bug#23432: 25.0.93; Email from Gnus now going out with Message-IDs @gmail.com
2016-05-04 18:31 ` N. Jackson
2016-05-04 21:27 ` Phillip Lord
@ 2016-05-04 22:15 ` Glenn Morris
1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2016-05-04 22:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: N. Jackson; +Cc: 23432
N. Jackson wrote:
> This is an extremely egregious flaw. Inserting an inappropriate string like
> "i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me" in Emacs users' email
> messages, without asking their permission and without informing them, is
> unacceptable.
Oh come off it.
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* bug#23432: 25.0.93; Email from Gnus now going out with Message-IDs @gmail.com
2016-05-04 21:27 ` Phillip Lord
@ 2016-05-05 0:10 ` N. Jackson
0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: N. Jackson @ 2016-05-05 0:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Phillip Lord; +Cc: 23432
At 22:27 +0100 on Wednesday 2016-05-04, Phillip Lord wrote:
>
> Still, you've got to laugh...
>
> It is supposed to check, though:
>
> (message-check 'shoot
> (if (re-search-forward
> "Message-ID.*.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me" nil t)
> (y-or-n-p "You appear to have a misconfigured system. Really post? ")
> t))
>
> So, I wonder why that is failing. Even if the message were less
> whimsical, the fallback is supposed to have been captured.
Aha! You are quite right Phil. A more careful search shows that every
instance of this string in my mail and news directories is in a message
that is in a drafts folder; they were never sent!
I was confused by
;; Default to this bogus thing.
(t
(concat sysname
".i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me")))))
where this value is set. I'd missed that it was trapped later.
Yeah, it is quite amusing. But not when I'm sending formal emails to
potential employers!
N.
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