From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3702: Emacs fails to respect the intent in `C-u C-u C-x C-s' of making a backup Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2016 14:19:08 +0300 Message-ID: <83eg73gitv.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20090628181318.3ABDA9828B@pluto.mumble.net> <837fdmc3rp.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1468063226 13836 80.91.229.3 (9 Jul 2016 11:20:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 11:20:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 3702-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: Andrew Hyatt Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 09 13:20:15 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bLqIw-0000et-PB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 13:20:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49877 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLqIv-0003cA-Tz for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 07:20:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45665) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLqIo-0003Zt-8H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 07:20:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLqIk-0004B0-8l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 07:20:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:59163) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLqIk-0004At-4y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 07:20:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bLqIk-0003Dr-1D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 07:20:02 -0400 Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2016 11:20:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: cc-closed 3702 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Mail-Followup-To: 3702@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, campbell@mumble.net Original-Received: via spool by 3702-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D3702.146806316912336 (code D ref 3702); Sat, 09 Jul 2016 11:20:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3702-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jul 2016 11:19:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43266 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bLqIC-0003Cu-ME for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 07:19:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54501) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bLqIB-0003Cg-T7 for 3702-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 07:19:28 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLqI2-00044u-Go for 3702-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 07:19:22 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38503) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLqI2-00044p-Dp; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 07:19:18 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1553 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bLqHz-0006i1-Lu; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 07:19:16 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Andrew Hyatt on Sat, 25 Jun 2016 23:22:42 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:120671 Archived-At: > From: Andrew Hyatt > Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 23:22:42 -0400 > > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: Andrew Hyatt > >> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 23:37:28 -0400 > >> Cc: 3702@debbugs.gnu.org > >> > >> > >> Sorry for the late reply on this one. This problem still exists in > >> Emacs 25. I agree that the current behavior doesn't match up with the > >> documentation. > >> > >> This probably is fixable by adding another free variable set by > >> save-buffer and read in various functions, but there's a lot of those > >> kind of variables already - the logic here, IMHO, could use a rewrite to > >> make the interactions clear. Maybe someone familiar with this code > >> might give their opinion. > > > > It sounds like this report boils down to interpreting the single word > > "unconditionally" in the doc string of save-buffer. All the rest is > > actually a request for a feature that never existed in Emacs. (FWIW, > > I don't object to adding such a feature, if someone submits patches to > > that effect.) > > Maybe the solution then is just to change the wording in the > documentation? But it might take someone who is very familiar with the > various exceptions to craft the new wording. OK, I modified the doc string to the above effect on the emacs-25 branch, and I'm marking this bug done. Thanks.