From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#30001: 27.0.50; Outdated info on save-excursion in (info "(cl) Modify Macros") Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2018 11:10:00 +0200 Message-ID: <83efn39wuv.fsf@gnu.org> References: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1515229757 24976 195.159.176.226 (6 Jan 2018 09:09:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:09:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 30001@debbugs.gnu.org To: Xu Chunyang Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 06 10:09:12 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eXkTW-0005wX-4k for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Jan 2018 10:09:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55730 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eXkVT-0004zw-Ge for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Jan 2018 04:11:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35101) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eXkVN-0004zd-TE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jan 2018 04:11:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eXkVJ-00071s-SM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jan 2018 04:11:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:57106) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eXkVJ-00071l-ON for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jan 2018 04:11:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eXkVJ-0001bl-Gl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jan 2018 04:11:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2018 09:11:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30001 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 30001-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30001.15152298316121 (code B ref 30001); Sat, 06 Jan 2018 09:11:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 30001) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jan 2018 09:10:31 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37554 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eXkUo-0001ad-HT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jan 2018 04:10:31 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43568) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eXkUn-0001aN-2R for 30001@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jan 2018 04:10:29 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eXkUd-0006aA-FM for 30001@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jan 2018 04:10:23 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:49567) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eXkUd-0006a1-8G; Sat, 06 Jan 2018 04:10:19 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2018 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eXkUc-00036O-BW; Sat, 06 Jan 2018 04:10:18 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Xu Chunyang on Sat, 06 Jan 2018 13:29:57 +0800) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:141826 Archived-At: > From: Xu Chunyang > Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2018 13:29:57 +0800 > > 'C-h S cl-letf' or (info "(cl) Modify Macros") has the following: > > Note that `cl-letf' on `(point)' is not quite like a > `save-excursion', as the latter effectively saves a marker which > tracks insertions and deletions in the buffer. > > but 'save-excursion' is no longer saving marker since Emacs 25.1 > according to 'C-h f save-excursion'. save-excursion doesn't save the _mark_, but it still saves a _marker_ that tracks point, as opposed to just the value of point at the moment of the call. Do you have a practical use case where the documentation is incorrect? Thanks.