From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20403: Format of NEWS (navigating in it) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 16:43:50 +0200 Message-ID: <83eeytnffd.fsf@gnu.org> References: <55375867020000A100019F48@gwsmtp1.uni-regensburg.de> <87pniex9a4.fsf@joffe.skangas.se> <2ecef70596fda1bcaaaa31944a01a39a@webmail.orcon.net.nz> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="19852"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de, stefan@marxist.se, 20403@debbugs.gnu.org To: Phil Sainty Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 31 15:51:04 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iQBmx-0004oX-DX for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 15:51:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51056 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iQBmt-0004Hw-Kj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 10:50:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50414) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iQBgB-0004ZX-GR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 10:44:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iQBgA-0007Px-7k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 10:44:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:45198) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iQBgA-0007Pt-4r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 10:44:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iQBgA-00080C-0o for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 10:44:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 14:44:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20403 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 20403-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20403.157253304030745 (code B ref 20403); Thu, 31 Oct 2019 14:44:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20403) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Oct 2019 14:44:00 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54019 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iQBg7-0007zp-N2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 10:43:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:41313) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iQBg5-0007za-A2 for 20403@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 10:43:58 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54523) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iQBfy-00079m-8B; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 10:43:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2847 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iQBfx-0007h0-PP; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 10:43:50 -0400 In-reply-to: <2ecef70596fda1bcaaaa31944a01a39a@webmail.orcon.net.nz> (message from Phil Sainty on Thu, 31 Oct 2019 22:56:50 +1300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:170519 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 22:56:50 +1300 > From: Phil Sainty > Cc: Ulrich Windl , 20403@debbugs.gnu.org > > The change I'd actually like to see is for NEWS to just be a symlink > to the appropriate NEWS.xx file, which should exist under that name > from the outset of development on version xx. That'd cause trouble when merging from the release branch. Symlinks complicate VCS operations in general. If we want a better NEWS, I'd suggest to introduce a new mode, which will inherit from Outline mode, but will support some sort of "include" directive. Then we could have a NEWS file that just "include"d the versioned files, and Emacs would display their contents, perhaps given some user command to expand a given version's news. As a bonus, this would let us have a single NEWS file, from user's POV, like other (smaller) projects do.