From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#39081: 26.3; Emacs hangs if external SCIM input method is killed Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 17:53:00 +0200 Message-ID: <83eew2592b.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87lfqey1xj.fsf@delllaptop.lockywolf.net> <83blra8lnb.fsf@gnu.org> <83wo9y71gt.fsf@gnu.org> <83h8107lwa.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="157796"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 39081@debbugs.gnu.org To: Vladimir Nikishkin Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 14 16:54:17 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1irOWF-000eSt-5Z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 16:54:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42596 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1irOWD-0006fT-MI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 10:54:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46780) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1irOW3-0006bW-Pw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 10:54:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1irOW2-0002us-MX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 10:54:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:55703) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1irOW2-0002u0-IJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 10:54:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1irOW2-0005DX-E2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 10:54:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 15:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 39081 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 39081-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B39081.157901718219970 (code B ref 39081); Tue, 14 Jan 2020 15:54:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 39081) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jan 2020 15:53:02 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33443 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1irOV4-0005Bv-0q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 10:53:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37487) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1irOUz-0005BZ-3t for 39081@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 10:53:00 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:47821) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1irOUt-0001Y1-Tw; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 10:52:51 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1830 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1irOUt-0003bQ-D6; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 10:52:51 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Vladimir Nikishkin on Tue, 14 Jan 2020 11:54:15 +0800) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:174572 Archived-At: > From: Vladimir Nikishkin > Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 11:54:15 +0800 > Cc: 39081@debbugs.gnu.org > > This is the "crashed" trace. Note the GTK message in between. Thanks. This seems to be an X error. And now I'm actually asking myself how reasonable is it to expect Emacs to continue working when its IM service crashes. Why is this a use case we should support? does it happen a lot in practice. (I admit I know very little about the architecture of SCIM support in Emacs, in terms of what OS services we use to communicate with it, and thus I cannot reason about the difficulty in surviving SCIM crashes. Does someone know?)