From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#50344: C-x v keybinding for vc-print-branch-log Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2021 11:28:59 +0300 Message-ID: <83ee8x1bn8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87mtoux1ha.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <1f39aa34-6626-3d0b-d764-2c9908787d99@yandex.ru> <87o8998wf4.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <84e4e2ef-6c8d-3645-9e1e-3129981dd45f@yandex.ru> <875yvgvohe.fsf@gnus.org> <87y28burzd.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87o896kt5k.fsf@gnus.org> <87sfyhj3qw.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87zgsoctoc.fsf@gnus.org> <59a05468-2309-c6e7-5a2a-51426c208966@yandex.ru> <87tuiv4hvc.fsf@gnus.org> <87fsudsngq.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87k0jora9d.fsf@gnus.org> <7ba6c699-cfe5-4fa3-92dd-55b1e227aacf@yandex.ru> <874kaptwki.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <878rz5pc9i.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83ily91djz.fsf@gnu.org> <878rz5w9cf.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34247"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 50344@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 07 10:30:52 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mYOnj-0008mN-W6 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 10:30:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42084 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYOni-0000Na-N3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 04:30:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51338) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYOmw-0000K0-EX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 04:30:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:34398) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYOmw-00030M-5t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 04:30:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mYOmw-0006Zd-1d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 04:30:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2021 08:30:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 50344 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 50344-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B50344.163359535125148 (code B ref 50344); Thu, 07 Oct 2021 08:30:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 50344) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2021 08:29:11 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45939 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mYOm7-0006XX-76 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 04:29:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49248) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mYOm5-0006X7-Ay for 50344@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 04:29:09 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:56798) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYOlz-0002CZ-9A; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 04:29:03 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4128 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYOly-0002AM-S8; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 04:29:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: <878rz5w9cf.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Thu, 07 Oct 2021 10:58:10 +0300) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:216618 Archived-At: > From: Juri Linkov > Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, 50344@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org > Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2021 10:58:10 +0300 > > >> It will take more time to create branch commands due to many problems. > >> So the best what we could do now is to rebind 'vc-switch-backend' > >> from 'C-x v b' to 'C-x v B' in emacs-28 to give time to adapt > >> to new keybinding. > > > > Please don't change such old key bindings, not unless we are > > deprecating the command (which we aren't, AFAIU). > > Sorry, I see no connection: why changing key bindings requires > deprecating the command? Because people will expect the old binding to work as long as the command is useful. > > It was then, but it can be used today with other backends. > > What backends do you switch with 'C-x v b' today? You mean, I personally? Why is that relevant? If you want to say that no one uses this command anymore, then that points to deprecating the command, and when it's obsolete for long enough time (at least one major release, IMO), we can remove its binding. > > So I'm opposed to such a change. (And it's too late for incompatible > > changes on the emacs-28 branch anyway.) > > It makes no sense to develop branch commands without 'C-x v b' binding. I don't see why it must end with 'b' to make any sense. I think you are exaggerating.