From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#54371: 29.0.50; read-char does not reset idle timer in some cases Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2022 21:34:28 +0200 Message-ID: <83ee35lk8r.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83sfrmkvuy.fsf@gnu.org> <87lexduc8w.fsf@gnus.org> <83pmmpls5g.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4570"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 54371@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ignacio Casso Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 13 20:35:27 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nTTzy-00014K-O2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2022 20:35:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33582 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nTTzx-0002J8-9N for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2022 15:35:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44186) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nTTza-0002Iz-2t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2022 15:35:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:49405) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nTTzZ-0004YV-Q2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2022 15:35:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nTTzZ-0001yr-LM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2022 15:35:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2022 19:35:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 54371 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 54371-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B54371.16472000907592 (code B ref 54371); Sun, 13 Mar 2022 19:35:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 54371) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Mar 2022 19:34:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43302 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nTTzO-0001yO-23 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2022 15:34:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38382) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nTTzM-0001y9-O6 for 54371@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2022 15:34:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=32912 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nTTzH-0004W0-DF; Sun, 13 Mar 2022 15:34:43 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=MWMgvs2IcZAScVULdVhvVkifGS/sMiL6Vgz+FLHr+Dc=; b=kVXBFiadMEGO +hhmBiP9se/Vcigj3SOv2i5FUnnZQoaMumpo5F0dHi9Zk3zUC7qdU+hUEJW6/ktB6ZrAgpFGEIOXD ffmKxNUXb/ZeoapYnj59wnc4B/dNF4jas5Zr0jJKN1nFwVQ6H9WF8ssLpzxg/GVeHA24gWxu727Pc J08mKr7zcNQfce764mPuWiSly/FfrrX5KBJQ23gHnw2kkfvlRCHGZNkeEUP8GNxFPifSXm/zp99WF AqaQ7KJN/kWUGQ3R/YBJSBblRGAd/VCFRFyivQ+9GEUI1k5dEuZsmgleBuuLIMFm6bzX1M0I/TlBt YJmIX8r2kHgZAslt76p72w==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4582 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nTTzG-0001f8-PZ; Sun, 13 Mar 2022 15:34:43 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Ignacio Casso on Sun, 13 Mar 2022 18:45:33 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:228306 Archived-At: > From: Ignacio Casso > Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 54371@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2022 18:45:33 +0100 > > However, I still think that if not a bug, this is at least inconsistent > and probably deserving a footnote in the relevant section of the Emacs > Lisp manual > (https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Idle-Timers.html). I think accessing current-idle-time from an idle time is inherently problematic: when the idle timer runs and receives input, whether or not Emacs is idle is ambiguous in principle. IOW, code which does that is splitting hair.