From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, v.pupillo@gmail.com, 55163@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#55163: 29.0.50; master 4a1f69ebca (TICKS . HZ) for current-time broke lsp-mode
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2022 22:53:31 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83ee1facp0.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0a39a220-6298-8ed4-87bd-414702cd9b57@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Fri, 29 Apr 2022 12:38:19 -0700)
> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2022 12:38:19 -0700
> Cc: 55163@debbugs.gnu.org, v.pupillo@gmail.com
> From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
>
> On 4/29/22 04:10, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Then why again would we want to come up with new functions for
> > handling timestamps? just because the existing ones have names that
> > make discovery difficult, or are there other reasons?
>
> I think Lars is saying both, though the other reasons are more important.
>
> Lars makes a good point that common idioms like
> (file-attribute-modification-time (file-attributes F)) generate
> unnecessary garbage. And it's more than just GC overhead: at a lower
> level, 'statx' on GNU/Linux can be significantly more efficient than
> plain 'stat' when retrieving just a subset of stat info (such as, just
> the file timestamp).
This is (almost) unrelated to timestamps. The same case can be made
about almost every individual file attribute, at least theoretically.
But before we implement a separate primitive for each attribute, we
should ask ourselves: what are the use cases where a Lisp program
would want to use such a primitive. Taking the file's modification
time as an example, are there any important use cases except
determining if a file is older or newer than another? Because we
already have a primitive for that.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-04-29 19:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-04-28 10:53 bug#55163: 29.0.50; master 4a1f69ebca (TICKS . HZ) for current-time broke lsp-mode Vincenzo Pupillo
2022-04-28 12:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-28 13:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-28 20:15 ` Paul Eggert
2022-04-28 20:42 ` Vincenzo Pupillo
2022-04-28 21:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-28 21:51 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-29 9:54 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-29 10:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-29 10:59 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-29 11:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-29 19:38 ` Paul Eggert
2022-04-29 19:53 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-04-29 22:45 ` Paul Eggert
2022-04-30 5:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-30 9:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-30 10:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-30 20:51 ` Paul Eggert
2022-05-01 5:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-01 15:00 ` Paul Eggert
2022-05-01 15:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-01 16:17 ` Paul Eggert
2022-05-01 16:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-02 17:27 ` Paul Eggert
2022-05-02 17:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-02 23:17 ` Paul Eggert
2022-05-03 2:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-03 2:52 ` Paul Eggert
2022-04-30 1:44 ` Paul Eggert
2022-04-30 5:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-30 11:21 ` Vincenzo Pupillo
2022-04-30 11:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-30 12:32 ` Vincenzo Pupillo
2022-04-30 12:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-30 13:22 ` Vincenzo Pupillo
2022-04-30 9:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-30 21:03 ` Paul Eggert
2022-05-01 5:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-01 15:08 ` Paul Eggert
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