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If you think that package-install is > >> fine, and João has expressed interest in that route as well, we might as > >> well go that way. > > > > OK, then let's do that, and thanks. > > Great, then just to that we are on the same page, what approach do we > finally want to decide on? > > - User option to enable upgrading built-in packages > - Prefix argument to enable upgrading built-in packages > - Always upgrade built-in packages The first two on emacs-29, the last one on master (if enough people think it's a good idea; me, I think we should wait for a while before deciding). > I argue the last option should be safe. Semantically it would also make > sense, since invoking the command can be taken to be take to be an > explicit request, and if it is not what a user wants (I assume that João > think this is not probable), then it is easy to revert. > > If we decide that this is not acceptable, then we can fall back onto the > patch that uses a prefix argument or a user option. Yes, that is what I think we should install on emacs-29. Thanks.