From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15962: 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 18:07:21 +0200 Message-ID: <83d2llakw6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <0691bec9-b582-4681-8245-ee3d05225485@default> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385568495 6586 80.91.229.3 (27 Nov 2013 16:08:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 16:08:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15962@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 27 17:08:19 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vlhey-0000GO-6H for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 17:08:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36590 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vlhex-0001HE-O1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 11:08:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43708) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vlheq-0001H9-73 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 11:08:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vlhel-0007MA-2g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 11:08:08 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:33847) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vlhek-0007Lz-VQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 11:08:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vlhek-0005ny-Ah for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 11:08:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 16:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15962 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 15962-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15962.138556845322271 (code B ref 15962); Wed, 27 Nov 2013 16:08:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15962) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Nov 2013 16:07:33 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47866 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VlheG-0005n9-Ke for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 11:07:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:43198) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VlheD-0005ms-Qt for 15962@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 11:07:31 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MWX00100J2ARD00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 15962@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 18:07:02 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MWX001UXJFPP650@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 18:07:02 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <0691bec9-b582-4681-8245-ee3d05225485@default> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:81028 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 21:59:37 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 15962@debbugs.gnu.org > > > OK, thanks. Can you describe your frame configuration, and tell which > > one of those frames got clicked on? > > Not helpfully so, I'm afraid. The frame I clicked in and hit `f5' in was > a thumbnail frame showing an emacs-lisp buffer. Dunno what other Emacs 24 > frames I had at the time, but there was at least one other (Dired, details > hidden), and probably they were all thumbnails as well, apart from the > standalone minibuffer frame (which stretches across the bottom of my > screen and is typically 2 lines tall). A thumbnail frame is just a tiny > frame (shrunk by shrinking the frame font size), with no menu bar or > tool bar (or minibuffer), but with a scroll bar. > > I doubt that these facts are significant. I don't recall whether the > other crashes were similar those respects. I think at least one of them > involved clicking in a normal-size frame. Please try to gather a few more data points. It is important to know if this happens with special frames, or with normal ones as well. > My unfounded guess is still that it is just the change of focus that > provokes the crash. Then it would be a mystery, because then everybody on Windows should have these crashes all the time. There's still something special to your configuration or usage patterns, I think.