From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16292: 24.3.50; info docs now contain single straight quotes instead of `' Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 23:10:39 +0200 Message-ID: <83d2k7v4fk.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20131229220810.GF7972@boo.workgroup> <52C0E734.4090403@cs.ucla.edu> <83sita1cbw.fsf@gnu.org> <52C1C456.2080004@cs.ucla.edu> <83fvpa16kh.fsf@gnu.org> <52C25D07.80808@cs.ucla.edu> <8338l91l2t.fsf@gnu.org> <52C4C95C.2010905@cs.ucla.edu> <837gajyrq1.fsf@gnu.org> <52C4F008.5060003@cs.ucla.edu> <83zjnextyg.fsf@gnu.org> <52C5BDD1.2050009@cs.ucla.edu> <83ppoaxfu6.fsf@gnu.org> <52C607DA.3090009@cs.ucla.edu> <83fvp5xzk0.fsf@gnu.org> <52C6F2C5.10505@cs.ucla.edu> <83mwjcx1i9.fsf@gnu.org> <52C750C4.6040006@cs.ucla.edu> <52C849DD.7020902@cs.ucla.edu> <83ob3rv7bl.fsf@gnu.org> <52C874C6.50107@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1388869879 12568 80.91.229.3 (4 Jan 2014 21:11:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 21:11:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 16292@debbugs.gnu.org, grfz@gmx.de To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 04 22:11:23 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VzYV8-0002hp-Kf for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 22:11:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55752 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzYV8-0000Yc-6E for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 16:11:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33880) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzYUz-0000V8-U8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 16:11:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzYUp-00028g-O9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 16:11:13 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:48682) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzYUp-00028c-KL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 16:11:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VzYUp-0004aV-E8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 16:11:03 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 21:11:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16292 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16292-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16292.138886986017611 (code B ref 16292); Sat, 04 Jan 2014 21:11:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16292) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jan 2014 21:11:00 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34466 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VzYUl-0004Zy-Kj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 16:10:59 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:62835) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VzYUj-0004Zn-2i for 16292@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 16:10:57 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MYW00000ASWQ800@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for 16292@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 23:10:55 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MYW0000AAU7QE00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 23:10:55 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <52C874C6.50107@cs.ucla.edu> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:82949 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 12:53:26 -0800 > From: Paul Eggert > CC: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 16292@debbugs.gnu.org, grfz@gmx.de > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 09:50:21 -0800 > >> From: Paul Eggert > >> > >> Defaulting to ASCII in all platforms would leave the original > >> bug unfixed by default on all installations, causing the > >> regression from `foo' to 'foo' that Drew Adams complained of. > > > > That's not an Emacs problem. The Texinfo developers decided to make > > that change, and they followed the GNU Coding Standards. Emacs needs > > to adapt, as the rest of the GNU project did. If you think this is a > > step backwards > > Defaulting to ASCII in all platforms would not be not a Texinfo problem, > as the ASCII transformation in the proposed patch is an Emacs-only hack. I wasn't talking about ASCII transformation. I was talking about either avoiding the use of "@documentencoding utf-8" or using "--disable-encoding" for those manuals that need non-ASCII text.