From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22564: Fundamental mode isn't fundamental enough. Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 05:31:53 +0200 Message-ID: <83d1s6pniu.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20160206112110.9815.qmail@mail.muc.de> <20160206143657.GA1246@holos> <878u2xrd0n.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <834mdks5fw.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7sqlnq.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83lh6wqld0.fsf@gnu.org> <87si13xa87.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83mvrbotmq.fsf@gnu.org> <87fux3x8ey.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83h9hiq5y9.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7qykzc.fsf@Rainer.invalid> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1454988830 12419 80.91.229.3 (9 Feb 2016 03:33:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 03:33:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 22564@debbugs.gnu.org To: Achim Gratz Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 09 04:33:39 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aSz3a-0002CX-4T for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 04:33:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51378 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSz3W-0006a3-8i for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 22:33:34 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35355) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSz35-00062x-Lo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 22:33:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSz30-0001EN-Mb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 22:33:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:51699) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSz30-0001EJ-KF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 22:33:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aSz30-0003Ht-GK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 22:33:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 03:33:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22564 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 22564-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B22564.145498873712588 (code B ref 22564); Tue, 09 Feb 2016 03:33:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 22564) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2016 03:32:17 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60840 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aSz2H-0003Gx-4t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 22:32:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44184) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aSz2G-0003Gm-7w for 22564@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 22:32:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSz27-0000gL-PA for 22564@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 22:32:11 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42797) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSz27-0000g9-LY; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 22:32:07 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1959 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aSz27-0003q1-1l; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 22:32:07 -0500 In-reply-to: <87bn7qykzc.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (message from Achim Gratz on Mon, 08 Feb 2016 22:01:59 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:112780 Archived-At: > From: Achim Gratz > Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2016 22:01:59 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> > The stuff that gets put into the selection is up to the application > >> > that owns the selection, right? > >> > >> That was the same Emacs in this case that I then pasted the text into. > > > > No, I mean the application from which the text came. > > That's what I meant, I was pasting from the same non-GUI Emacs running > in the konsole terminal. I'm confused. You said: > Whether or not the trailing whitespace > gets added seems to depend on where I copy from: copying from the > terminal window itself adds whitespace, copying from an Emacs GUI > frame doesn't. Do you mean that the terminal window in question was a TTY frame in the same Emacs session as the GUI frame? If so, copying from the terminal frame is not copying from Emacs, but from the terminal emulator that runs in that window, I think, as Emacs cannot access the X selection from a TTY frame. The selection owner in the TTY case is the terminal emulator, not Emacs.