From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#26459: 26.0.50; loaddefs.el is regenerated after each "git pull" Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 10:09:58 +0300 Message-ID: <83d1cgiy0p.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83k26qj9av.fsf@gnu.org> <41351891-925d-a2a7-0a69-630048154c05@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1492067418 6879 195.159.176.226 (13 Apr 2017 07:10:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 07:10:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 26459@debbugs.gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 13 09:10:07 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cyYtL-0001az-5w for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2017 09:10:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47711 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cyYtP-0002vj-JN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2017 03:10:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34697) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cyYtJ-0002uH-Ki for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2017 03:10:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cyYtG-0004nR-GE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2017 03:10:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:46805) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cyYtG-0004nN-Ch for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2017 03:10:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cyYtG-0005Q6-6n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2017 03:10:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 07:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 26459 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 26459-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B26459.149206738820810 (code B ref 26459); Thu, 13 Apr 2017 07:10:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 26459) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Apr 2017 07:09:48 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45004 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cyYt2-0005Pa-5q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2017 03:09:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43630) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cyYt0-0005PO-Qx for 26459@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2017 03:09:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cyYss-0004hL-Jh for 26459@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2017 03:09:41 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55873) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cyYss-0004hH-GD; Thu, 13 Apr 2017 03:09:38 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2007 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cyYsq-0006Fi-Hf; Thu, 13 Apr 2017 03:09:37 -0400 In-reply-to: <41351891-925d-a2a7-0a69-630048154c05@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Wed, 12 Apr 2017 14:37:50 -0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:131528 Archived-At: > From: Paul Eggert > Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 14:37:50 -0700 > > On 04/12/2017 01:54 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Paul, could you please explain why would > > it be a bad idea to remove the "phony" status from loaddefs.el? > > That would cause loaddefs.el to not be generated sometimes when it > should be. loaddefs.el depends not only on $(LOADDEFS) (its explicit > dependencies), but also on all the other *.el files that have an > autoload directive. Thanks, I have now added this rationale to the commentary in Makefile.in. > I don't see how the problem you mention is one that d703a4d introduced, > as previously loaddefs.el was generated as a side effect of the > 'autoloads' rule, which was already phony. Yes, as Glenn pointed out, the actual culprit was a much later change. > That being said, we could do a better job of dependency checking here, > so that loaddefs.el is not built so often. I'll see if I can think of > something. Given that batch-update-autoloads already does a good job in picking up the required changes, I doubt this would be worth your time. But thanks anyway.