From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#29189: 25.3; Dired does not work with binary filenames Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2018 19:53:33 +0200 Message-ID: <83d12l8siq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <3CE09384-E9D6-4DB9-853A-11088CF8DF80@gnu.org> <83a7ztp6p7.fsf@gnu.org> <83k1ywoq4z.fsf@gnu.org> <83h8u0on7y.fsf@gnu.org> <83po8ii56w.fsf@gnu.org> <83lgj3fy29.fsf@gnu.org> <83h8rz9x6k.fsf@gnu.org> <83608f9dnb.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1515347603 28540 195.159.176.226 (7 Jan 2018 17:53:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2018 17:53:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 29189@debbugs.gnu.org, vianchielfaura@gmail.com, schwab@suse.de To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 07 18:53:18 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eYF8C-0006rC-OB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Jan 2018 18:53:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60818 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eYFAC-000265-49 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:55:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35267) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eYFA1-00025U-LQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:55:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eYF9y-0000rb-JC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:55:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:59377) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eYF9y-0000rP-Fo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:55:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eYF9y-0003HE-6p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:55:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2018 17:55:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 29189 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 29189-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B29189.151534764312506 (code B ref 29189); Sun, 07 Jan 2018 17:55:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 29189) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jan 2018 17:54:03 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39819 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eYF91-0003Fe-DD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:54:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43698) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eYF8y-0003F9-V4 for 29189@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:54:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eYF8s-00008V-Nj for 29189@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:53:55 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:44988) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eYF8m-0008Uq-IJ; Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:53:48 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1708 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eYF8l-0000cP-VT; Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:53:48 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Sun, 07 Jan 2018 10:20:06 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:141879 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: handa@gnu.org, vianchielfaura@gmail.com, 29189@debbugs.gnu.org, schwab@suse.de > Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2018 10:20:06 -0500 > > > Input that is from multibyte text can include raw bytes in their > > multibyte representation. What is a "non-byte"? > > `λ`? `é`? `²`? These are characters, so they will never end up in the code fragment that was the subject of this big, because that code deals specifically with the unprocessed tail of byte stream that could not be decoded. They will be decoded with the rest of the text before we get to the code being discussed. And even if you would like to add there assertion for "cannot happen" stuff, how would you identify such "non-bytes"? Their byte sequences depend on the original encoding, so detecting them sounds like your favorite Turing stopping problem, no?