From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36083: 26.2; Bell every 10 seconds with message " is undefined" Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 17:13:57 +0300 Message-ID: <83d0jttp3u.fsf@gnu.org> References: Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="92170"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 36083@debbugs.gnu.org To: Rick McCarty Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 04 16:16:33 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hYAEq-000NpG-TJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Jun 2019 16:16:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53286 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hYAEp-0002IT-On for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Jun 2019 10:16:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35526) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hYADP-0001vP-FL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jun 2019 10:15:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hYADO-0003JY-7C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jun 2019 10:15:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:60208) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hYADO-0003Id-3a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jun 2019 10:15:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hYADN-0001CU-Qi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jun 2019 10:15:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 14:15:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 36083 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 36083-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B36083.15596576554533 (code B ref 36083); Tue, 04 Jun 2019 14:15:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 36083) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jun 2019 14:14:15 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45519 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hYACc-0001B3-MT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jun 2019 10:14:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49164) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hYACa-0001Am-5D for 36083@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jun 2019 10:14:13 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36856) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hYACU-0001zA-TU; Tue, 04 Jun 2019 10:14:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1546 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hYACT-0007l3-Qf; Tue, 04 Jun 2019 10:14:06 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Rick McCarty on Tue, 4 Jun 2019 00:18:28 +0000) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:160109 Archived-At: > From: Rick McCarty > Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2019 00:18:28 +0000 > > In a new install of Windows 10, every 10 seconds the bell rings in Emacs, and the message " is > undefined" is printed. It only happens when focus is on the Emacs window. This makes Emacs completely > unusable. This is produced if Emacs receives the 'noname' (VK_NONAME) pseudo-key key-press event from Windows. It sounds like DishAnywhere and SlingPlayer are sending these pseudo-keys to make sure the system doesn't go to sleep when these applications are active. Does typing the below inside Emacs make the problem go away? M-: (define-key global-map [noname] 'ignore) RET > This is not a new thing - I have seen it before on Vista, Win 7, and another Windows 10 system. I've never > been able to figure out what is going on - instead I've just installed XEmacs and used that. If you see this since Vista, it would mean you are aware of the problem for at least 10 years, maybe longer. I can only say it's a pity you didn't report this earlier. Please in the future try to report problems with smaller delays, thanks in advance.