From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36421: Having some text with face height > 1.0 causes scroll-step to be ignored Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 17:55:32 +0300 Message-ID: <83d0ivf7h7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83blyghmhu.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="79345"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 36421@debbugs.gnu.org, pipcet@gmail.com, cyrus.and@gmail.com To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 30 16:56:15 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hhbFV-000KVf-6l for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 16:56:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45022 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hhbFU-0002F3-6G for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 10:56:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59221) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hhbFL-0002Ek-6c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 10:56:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hhbFK-0006vp-8A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 10:56:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:33557) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hhbFK-0006vX-3Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 10:56:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hhbFK-0005Mz-0h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 10:56:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 14:56:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 36421 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 36421-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B36421.156190654920621 (code B ref 36421); Sun, 30 Jun 2019 14:56:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 36421) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jun 2019 14:55:49 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47101 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hhbF7-0005MW-C8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 10:55:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53345) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hhbF3-0005MI-QO for 36421@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 10:55:46 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34760) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hhbEy-0006dZ-GL; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 10:55:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4198 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hhbEx-0007W6-Ap; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 10:55:40 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Juanma Barranquero on Sat, 29 Jun 2019 21:55:02 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:161887 Archived-At: > From: Juanma Barranquero > Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2019 21:55:02 +0200 > Cc: Andrea Cardaci , 36421@debbugs.gnu.org, pipcet@gmail.com > > > Btw, why do you find recentering annoying? It's the default Emacs way > > of bringing the next windowful of text into view together with some > > context. Scrolling by just one line is sub-optimal because you don't > > see all of the context: the text below the last line is not visible. > > I don't think there's any simple answer to that. I remember discussing this in emacs-devel long ago (back > when the new font backends where introduced and line-by-line scrolling was unable to keep with typing > repeatedly). > > The answer, I suspect, is just that some of us are wired that way. You see it as recentering bringing up new > context, I see it as forcing my visual cortex to scramble to go to the center of the window to re-locate the line I > was looking at. That's not only slower than just looking at new lines as they appear at the bottom. but also > quite uncomfortable. This assumes that Emacs is used for prolonged scrolling through buffers, one line at a time. That is something that happens to me only very seldom, read: never. Emacs is an editor, not a pager; and if I ever need to page through a buffer, I do it with C-v and its ilk, i.e. with scroll commands, not with commands that move point.