From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36315: 27.0.50; SVG transparency handling is inaccurate Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2019 17:26:11 +0300 Message-ID: <83d0isecn0.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83blymnaog.fsf@gnu.org> <83imstli5f.fsf@gnu.org> <83mui4jq4j.fsf@gnu.org> <83sgrvi060.fsf@gnu.org> <83imsnf8t0.fsf@gnu.org> <83zhlxetf0.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="144093"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 36315@debbugs.gnu.org, pipcet@gmail.com To: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 02 16:27:31 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hiJko-000bMz-KK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2019 16:27:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53926 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hiJkn-0007gE-II for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2019 10:27:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48498) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hiJkO-0007fH-BV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2019 10:27:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hiJkM-0008W5-TY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2019 10:27:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:38799) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hiJkM-0008Vr-O9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2019 10:27:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hiJkM-0006gn-Hs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2019 10:27:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2019 14:27:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 36315 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 36315-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B36315.156207759525677 (code B ref 36315); Tue, 02 Jul 2019 14:27:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 36315) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jul 2019 14:26:35 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47619 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hiJju-0006g5-Qv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2019 10:26:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36048) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hiJjs-0006fs-GW for 36315@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2019 10:26:32 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49822) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hiJjm-00086h-2x; Tue, 02 Jul 2019 10:26:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4194 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hiJjk-0005zS-OC; Tue, 02 Jul 2019 10:26:25 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu on Tue, 02 Jul 2019 18:46:28 +0900) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:161960 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2019 18:46:28 +0900 > From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu > Cc: pipcet@gmail.com, > 36315@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > > Again, it isn't something entirely rational, it just sounds weird to > > > > me. Imagine that users libxml2 would need to call libiconv to decode > > > > UTF-8 encoded text in an XML file, for example. Doesn't look right. > > > > > > The situation for libcairo and librsvg should be familiar to us: we > > > are directly using Emacs core functionality even when working with > > > several major or minor modes. > > > > Not sure what this alludes to. > > The correspondence is: > > libcairo - Emacs core functionality > librsvg - Major/minor mode (e.g., Org mode) > > Major/minor modes are not designed to be used in their own right, but > with (the direct use of) Emacs core functionality. Would Org mode > users complain that it looks like they are using Emacs and not Org > mode? > > Even the current SVG support code does something like this: > > /* Create a new RsvgHandle object. */ > rsvg_handle = rsvg_handle_new (); > > /* Do some tasks with rsvg_handle. */ > > /* Free the RsvgHandle object. */ > g_object_unref (rsvg_handle); > > Do you reject this code because it looks like we are using gobject and > not librsvg? > > > One thing that bothers me with using sub-libraries is that we now need > > another entry in dynamic-library-alist, which means complications if > > Cairo ever changes its ABI and we will need to use libcairo-N.dll > > where N > 2. > > The patch also removes the entry for gdk-pixbuf, so the situation is > not getting worse. > > FWIW, if we want to fix bug#35548 (use of rsvg_handle_write and > rsvg_handle_close that are being deprecated), then we will need to add > an entry for gio. We clearly disagree, and I already said I didn't think this is worth an argument. Feel free to do whatever you see fit.