From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#37811: "standard GNU Emacs Lisp" Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2019 15:53:42 +0300 Message-ID: <83d0es7v6x.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83mudx6pee.fsf@gnu.org> <8736foewup.fsf@igel.home> <83eez87vcz.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="216699"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 37811@debbugs.gnu.org, nicholasdrozd@gmail.com To: schwab@linux-m68k.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 19 14:55:18 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iLoGM-000uFQ-BO for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 14:55:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54182 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iLoGK-0008TA-KB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 08:55:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35552) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iLoGA-0008NJ-I3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 08:55:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iLoG8-000764-Ho for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 08:55:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:43270) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iLoG6-00073S-Ec for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 08:55:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iLoG6-0004uN-BK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 08:55:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2019 12:55:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 37811 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 37811-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B37811.157148964218779 (code B ref 37811); Sat, 19 Oct 2019 12:55:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 37811) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Oct 2019 12:54:02 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52090 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iLoF7-0004sh-Qw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 08:54:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54629) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iLoF5-0004sM-TF for 37811@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 08:54:00 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35481) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iLoEz-0005Yq-MN; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 08:53:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4741 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iLoEy-0001lh-Rm; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 08:53:53 -0400 In-reply-to: <83eez87vcz.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 19 Oct 2019 15:50:04 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:169737 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2019 15:50:04 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii > Cc: 37811@debbugs.gnu.org, nicholasdrozd@gmail.com > > > > Common Lisp note: Common Lisp has functions ‘union’ (which avoids > > > duplicate elements) and ‘intersection’ for set operations. > > > Although standard GNU Emacs Lisp does not have them, the ‘cl-lib’ > > > library provides versions. *Note (cl)Lists as Sets::. > > > > > > So "standard" is used here in contrast to CL. I don't think any of > > > the proposed replacements pick up that nuance, do they? > > > > cl-lib is part of Emacs, but not loaded by default. I think that's what > > standard is supposed to mean here. > > I see your point, but that wasn't my interpretation when I've read > that text. > > Anyway, I think just dropping that word will fix the possible > confusion. Or maybe we should simply say this: Common Lisp note: Common Lisp has functions ‘union’ (which avoids duplicate elements) and ‘intersection’ for set operations. In Emacs Lisp, variants of these facilities are provided by the ‘cl-lib’ library. *Note (cl)Lists as Sets::.