From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3751: 23.0.95; C-h H does not display hourglass cursor Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2019 10:21:53 +0200 Message-ID: <83d0eak7ry.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83ws6o21x4.fsf@gnu.org> <8736f6hl58.fsf@marxist.se> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="9558"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 3751@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 02 09:22:12 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iQofi-0002Li-MZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2019 09:22:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45650 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iQofg-0006j4-Vj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2019 04:22:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52566) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iQofb-0006ik-Cf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2019 04:22:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iQofa-00043s-E6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2019 04:22:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:49234) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iQofa-00043U-AS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2019 04:22:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iQofa-0001ig-4G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2019 04:22:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2019 08:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 3751 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 3751-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B3751.15726829166598 (code B ref 3751); Sat, 02 Nov 2019 08:22:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3751) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Nov 2019 08:21:56 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58055 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iQofT-0001iM-I3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2019 04:21:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43466) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iQofR-0001i9-9V for 3751@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2019 04:21:53 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:50563) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iQofL-0003RE-Vb; Sat, 02 Nov 2019 04:21:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4422 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iQofL-0005ly-Ev; Sat, 02 Nov 2019 04:21:47 -0400 In-reply-to: <8736f6hl58.fsf@marxist.se> (message from Stefan Kangas on Sat, 02 Nov 2019 07:01:23 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:170768 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Cc: 3751@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2019 07:01:23 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > On MS Windows, "C-h H" takes as much as 10 seconds (on a 3GHz > > machine), but no hourglass cursor is displayed during that time, > > making it look like nothing is going on. > > > > If displaying an hourglass cursor during the time Emacs prepares to > > display etc/HELLO is difficult, at the very least please display some > > informative message that ends with "please wait..." in the echo area. > > Hi Eli, > > Here is another bug of yours that was reported 10 years ago. Is this > still an issue? It seems to me that it would be easy to add a message > using progress-reporter. It is still an issue, and the reason is the details of how the hourglass cursor display is implemented on MS-Windows. I'd like this bug report to be left open, because it is an example of quite a few other situations where a prolonged operation doesn't cause the hourglass cursor to be displayed. I still hope that someone will add or modify the code to produce the expected effect in those cases. If someone wants to work on this, I can provide more details. Thanks.