From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#43830: keyboard layout handling incompatible with rest of the OS Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 18:31:37 +0200 Message-ID: <83d012cnx2.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87h7r78a5y.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87imbn2iwm.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87y2kisawy.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83362qa073.fsf@gnu.org> <87blhdrhww.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83362p85l3.fsf@gnu.org> <83y2jqcrvn.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7725"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 43830@debbugs.gnu.org, juri@linkov.net To: Paul Pogonyshev Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 28 17:32:28 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kXoNA-0001tz-0e for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 17:32:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56104 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kXoN9-0001NL-2O for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 12:32:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35290) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kXoMk-0001Ly-LC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 12:32:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:38757) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kXoMk-00089O-Ao for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 12:32:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kXoMk-0004RZ-8F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 12:32:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 16:32:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 43830 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 43830-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B43830.160390271317065 (code B ref 43830); Wed, 28 Oct 2020 16:32:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 43830) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Oct 2020 16:31:53 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50303 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kXoMb-0004RB-Gs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 12:31:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35036) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kXoMZ-0004Qw-Ec for 43830@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 12:31:51 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:47455) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kXoMT-000872-1I; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 12:31:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3801 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kXoMO-0002Iy-4o; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 12:31:42 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Paul Pogonyshev on Wed, 28 Oct 2020 17:16:59 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:191897 Archived-At: > From: Paul Pogonyshev > Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 17:16:59 +0100 > Cc: Juri Linkov , 43830@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > However, in Elisp this is further complicated by there being no > > > real KeyEvent structure, instead it's a single integer as far as I > > > can see. > > > > Why would you need that? If we decide to use XkbTranslateKeyCode, we > > could translate the keycode in C, according to some logic that took > > into account the modifiers and perhaps also some user options, and > > returned the resulting translated character. > > The point is that the character is not enough, you need to know both > the character and the physical key (you cannot reconstruct the key > from the character alone). E.g. suppose I type 'й' in Russian layout. > If it is a self-inserting command, character 'й' should be added to the > active buffer. But if I'm typing a multikey binding, it should be > interpreted as 'q' (it's the same physical key), so that e.g. 'C-ч й' is > translated to 'C-x q'. Without looking, I'm pretty sure this goes well > into Elisp part of Emacs No, AFAIR this is all done in C.