From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#44929: 28.0.50; Info-next-reference skips next reference Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2020 22:22:29 +0200 Message-ID: <83czzxmdtm.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87360tjnht.fsf@gmx.net> <83h7p9mfl8.fsf@gnu.org> <87tut9i7fa.fsf@gmx.net> <2cb435b4-7de8-4783-9830-44195c111aca@default> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24166"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: stephen.berman@gmx.net, 44929@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 28 21:23:21 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kj6kb-0006Bc-Ah for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2020 21:23:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38734 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kj6kZ-00025S-Oj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2020 15:23:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43052) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kj6kI-00025I-Ev for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2020 15:23:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:37628) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kj6kI-0003la-5y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2020 15:23:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kj6kI-0002nr-0D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2020 15:23:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2020 20:23:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44929 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 44929-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44929.160659497110741 (code B ref 44929); Sat, 28 Nov 2020 20:23:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 44929) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Nov 2020 20:22:51 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49174 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kj6k6-0002nB-NA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2020 15:22:50 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52984) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kj6k4-0002my-Dv for 44929@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2020 15:22:48 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:50028) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kj6jy-0003fK-Mu; Sat, 28 Nov 2020 15:22:42 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4466 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kj6jy-00009o-5Y; Sat, 28 Nov 2020 15:22:42 -0500 In-Reply-To: <2cb435b4-7de8-4783-9830-44195c111aca@default> (message from Drew Adams on Sat, 28 Nov 2020 12:10:57 -0800 (PST)) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:194508 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2020 12:10:57 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 44929-done@debbugs.gnu.org > > How about improving `C-h k RET' here, to let > users know that? Neither the command name > nor the doc string really suggests that. IOW, > can we please elaborate about "near point"? > > What's more, though some of the doc string says > "near point", other parts say "on". > > "If point is on a reference..." > "If point is in a menu item..." > > And this mistakenly says that "point" is "on", > or "in" something, whereas point is a position, > not something that is at, on, or in something > else. It's the other way around: something is > _at_ a position (such as point). Pedant.