From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#53158: 28.0.90; TAB, RET key behave differently for Git-Log-View, Outline View mode Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 05:25:12 +0200 Message-ID: <83czkz7y3r.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83zgo38ojq.fsf@gnu.org> <83h7ab8iql.fsf@gnu.org> <24ff80-a2f2-955b-4ff3-6d5b20a4b5f@SDF.ORG> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30881"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 53158@debbugs.gnu.org To: Van Ly Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 11 04:27:23 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n77og-0007tU-UR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 04:27:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46062 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n77og-0007iD-1o for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2022 22:27:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:32832) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n77nO-0005Qm-5b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2022 22:26:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:60838) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n77nN-0000dA-Sg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2022 22:26:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n77nN-0007kr-PU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2022 22:26:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 03:26:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 53158 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 53158-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B53158.164187154229775 (code B ref 53158); Tue, 11 Jan 2022 03:26:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 53158) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jan 2022 03:25:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53741 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n77n4-0007kB-Gr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2022 22:25:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60232) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n77n1-0007jv-O7 for 53158@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2022 22:25:40 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=37090 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n77mw-0000a8-H3; Mon, 10 Jan 2022 22:25:34 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=UrSe5W5rkLcx+PnvBcQVPTZ/lpGtk6rjjxjUCJJEtGE=; b=TKgPeyz1n1wm PaabhLHH9kOWNUCDrBtx+4UKR4P6Mymu63hulcAXlgOGgERScQVDQf/tzzByghbk1osBGjJayw8O7 1Qa3wNWnjviGhgBRjUHPS5wHr3tx04a744jb7By3TF20OHUQbe2SmXgMKqUZlz4VgdFl8q3FG15CB by5efSfCwLRjR5T0BnPOKml1bwnVIcXYjyE94xnszOy8VboucZrr0GjP6vwiIR+rx1yMocnRYJQvq ocaDh0r8iuEYK5G9BI1qOtL+/r3XerIAkNwHIGv2Fgen1/B0JXrW+UVQivUNBrIZ9VAbmJrRJiAkb taCNxk4EX96ege8n2QaKTA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2041 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n77mi-0006sO-SP; Mon, 10 Jan 2022 22:25:34 -0500 In-Reply-To: <24ff80-a2f2-955b-4ff3-6d5b20a4b5f@SDF.ORG> (message from Van Ly on Mon, 10 Jan 2022 20:59:00 +0000 (UTC)) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:223919 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 20:59:00 +0000 (UTC) > From: Van Ly > cc: 53158@debbugs.gnu.org > > >> Yes, I know. Emacs unboxes with unpleasant defaults. > > > > Is that some new way of convincing the maintainers to be more amenable > > to your opinions and suggestions? If so, it isn't working. > > > > A pearl comes from an irritant in the shell. Only from some irritants. > > A TAB as a means to cycle visibility could be a natural thing in > > outline modes, but log-view-mode is not an outline mode, it's derived > > from different parents. > > Having the same keybinding function on the aster at position one on > the line to unroll/rollup the headline/detail is an opportunity > for improving the UI intuitivity across these two modes. From an > enduser perspective. I'm an end-user as well, please don't forget that.