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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: g@acm.muc.de, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 61847@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#61847: debug-early-backtrace only works some of the time.
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2023 18:53:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83cz5sfm6e.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y/935jL0P33MSy5+@ACM> (message from Alan Mackenzie on Wed, 1 Mar 2023 16:05:58 +0000)

> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 16:05:58 +0000
> Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 61847@debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
> 
> My main argument against cl-prin1 is that it's Lisp, and loading Lisp in
> early bootstrap is an uncertain, difficult process, as this bug shows.

My main point, which I evidently fail to drive home, is that we must
do that anyway, if we want these backtraces to show a reasonably
readable information.

> prin1 is _far_ from "infinitely useless".  I've used it to good effect.

Yes, and when I was younger, I used MSDOS to good effect.

> cl-prin1 is not useful for printing compiled functions.

Then let's make it useful!  That's the right direction, not falling
back to prin1.

> How about this suggestion: to fix the bug right now, we put prin1 back
> in, as it was in the original debug-early.el.  When cl-prin1 has
> improved sufficiently, we then consider putting it back into
> debug-early.el?

No.





      reply	other threads:[~2023-03-01 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-27 17:11 bug#61847: debug-early-backtrace only works some of the time Alan Mackenzie
2023-02-27 19:15 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-28  9:12   ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-02-28 12:16     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-28 13:16       ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-02-28 14:22         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-28 14:45           ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-02-28 17:36     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-28 19:52       ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-02-28 19:58         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-01 12:16         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-01 15:22           ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-03-01 16:01             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-01 16:46               ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-03-01 17:04                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-01 17:31                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-03-01 18:22                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-01 17:34             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-03 10:58               ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-03-01 13:32         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-01 16:05           ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-03-01 16:53             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]

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