From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#63757: 29.0.91 order of package paths changed: random old versions of packages in load-path Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2023 17:54:04 +0300 Message-ID: <83cz2b5ldf.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83y1l7gzqw.fsf@gnu.org> <87ilcb2p1l.fsf@posteo.net> <87sfb8g85v.fsf@posteo.net> <83a5xf7pi5.fsf@gnu.org> <87ttvnoehl.fsf@posteo.net> <8335377iyo.fsf@gnu.org> <87h6rnoa8v.fsf@posteo.net> <83v8g35ybo.fsf@gnu.org> <87cz2bo3qu.fsf@posteo.net> <83pm6b5t1i.fsf@gnu.org> <878rczo28v.fsf@posteo.net> <83o7lv5sjc.fsf@gnu.org> <874jnno1bi.fsf@posteo.net> <83mt1f5rab.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25506"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: philipk@posteo.net, 63757@debbugs.gnu.org, artscan@list.ru To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 04 16:54:18 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q5p7a-0006Qz-Kb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 16:54:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q5p7L-0005dq-Gc; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 10:54:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q5p7K-0005dU-6C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 10:54:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q5p7J-0001mL-UV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 10:54:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q5p7J-00046y-QT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 10:54:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2023 14:54:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 63757 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 63757-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B63757.168589040115755 (code B ref 63757); Sun, 04 Jun 2023 14:54:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 63757) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jun 2023 14:53:21 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46876 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q5p6e-000463-Tq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 10:53:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52854) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q5p6c-00045p-BK for 63757@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 10:53:19 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q5p6V-0001fB-Av; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 10:53:11 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=rOex2UYXY5GBloRrauZl5POYxdMvs40UDiTTj+nYNoI=; b=dUyxbtfiHon4 JzQbS0SDVoecIlAY5MFQ8B8iUwtFgfVwo4AAyPp7l1qIFgIgI2NVHHfMQMWvcqlCFImkM7jKWpmjd mEmAb3RpXKALlQBGe9NVOqJrUolZMdVGLIITQdtF/DLXjwchsTD7692MUwnwhAKUYX+wHsAm93FFB gXmNNZq4xMg0GD8tvK+cmW6chIzl0NBVF2MloMcnP0H8nx7msOPOsS4XjJXW84cP3lzoLdH2hyrLh L6x3xEydgKLY+Iags2asDgEdtpmTu72JzyC3eAcNPMHFP6/LiqDN1hjjKIKx15LeglQRuHhwO+aQ9 zEpSucO2m9R0RWnVTaTR7A==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q5p6U-0001nt-Rq; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 10:53:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Sun, 04 Jun 2023 10:46:05 -0400) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:262960 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Philip Kaludercic , artscan@list.ru, > 63757@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2023 10:46:05 -0400 > > > OK, thanks. Please install on emacs-29, and let's hope this doesn't > > cause new problems. > > No please don't. It doesn't fix the problem, it just hides it a bit > further but will still bite some users. What do you suggest instead, that is safe enough for emacs-29? The only alternative I see is leave this unsolved, since the issue happens only if someone installs new versions of packages by hand without deleting the old versions. Are there any other alternatives that you see for the release branch?