From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#66247: 29.1; Transient frame problems with Emacs 29 on MS Windows Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 21:46:52 +0300 Message-ID: <83cyxmuxgj.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87y1gpn5a9.fsf@yahoo.com> <87ttrdn16x.fsf@yahoo.com> <83jzs9x7n8.fsf@gnu.org> <83ttrbaiba.fsf@gnu.org> <83zg0rvd4s.fsf@gnu.org> <83r0m2vga2.fsf@gnu.org> <83edi2v6b2.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4819"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 66247-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 10 20:48:13 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qqHm8-0000zY-Tk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 20:48:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qqHlg-00042K-JK; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 14:47:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qqHld-00041v-MN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 14:47:42 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qqHld-00067I-DW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 14:47:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qqHly-00044J-Bc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 14:48:02 -0400 Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 18:48:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: cc-closed 66247 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: unreproducible moreinfo Mail-Followup-To: 66247@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com Original-Received: via spool by 66247-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D66247.169696365315593 (code D ref 66247); Tue, 10 Oct 2023 18:48:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 66247-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Oct 2023 18:47:33 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36887 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qqHlV-00043R-4Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 14:47:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47970) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qqHlR-00043C-4y for 66247-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 14:47:31 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qqHkz-0005wa-UI; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 14:47:01 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=MK7DvEnedBaDaEgfYxaOON8spfJvYnW0xiHwrWYmw6Q=; b=O32uxVddPlNU PfA3I/eH8nmm4JYP9BWe8GV4UajmqPRu++AkDC+I4oy6SI7A7XVCOZ8Yb2c/TRwwcVVbnwrH0aTrZ RehyvFd0xdNLbGcKlBaU9K1EsZOHKrLKPCWCgerOybbfaF4GEIPHhm9zQzecZdxzYgHwvrpJZvnWW 5rjrQdpm3Z+iWIaqQaWFEpjob8tHIUl1mInr3SHOlNUhC94/dPooNJCY/yqhWekwVSOaIGJX4rKs5 rOPZYqZec366fpCzj/JrZupSJFT7HSpOHlzimCnrGyqB/jClJwqLBqxwM8Kp9o4am8Wt8YXTBm7Gu Jh6GCiJ504hKyWYZDjAs/Q==; In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Tue, 10 Oct 2023 15:53:56 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:272229 Archived-At: > From: Drew Adams > CC: "luangruo@yahoo.com" , > "66247@debbugs.gnu.org" > <66247@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 15:53:56 +0000 > > > > BTW, what's the rationale behind making this > > > a frame parameter rather than just an option > > > that affects all frames? Presumably there is > > > some use case for having it ON or OFF for only > > > specific frames or groups of frames. I'm > > > curious what such a use case might be. > > > > This comes from Unix, where each frame can be on a different X > > display, and therefore could use a different display driver. > > Aha! Now it makes sense to me (it's been a long > time since I used X Window). > > I wonder whether it might make sense for the doc > to say something about this? > > Maybe more importantly I wonder whether it might > make sense to add a user option that has the > effect of turning on/off double-buffering for > all frames. We already have that, for every frame-parameter: customize both initial-frame-alist and default-frame-alist. Why do we need something else, and why should this particular parameter be different from all the other frame parameters? > Do you think it would be good to add an option? No, I think it would be a needless complication. > Anyway, this is OT for this bug, which can be > closed, IMO. Done.