From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9591: 24.0.50; buffer name completion Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 09:42:46 +0300 Message-ID: <83bou2edjt.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87r5356aqu.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1317364989 12497 80.91.229.12 (30 Sep 2011 06:43:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 06:43:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, 9591@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 30 08:43:05 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R9WoK-0000Vy-NG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 08:43:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35385 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R9WoK-0004fH-0O for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 02:43:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:43219) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R9WoG-0004fC-Uq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 02:43:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R9WoF-0002KA-U8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 02:43:00 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:36438) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R9WoF-0002Jh-S6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 02:42:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R9WpH-0004KW-9u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 02:44:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 06:44:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9591 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9591-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9591.131736503716626 (code B ref 9591); Fri, 30 Sep 2011 06:44:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9591) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Sep 2011 06:43:57 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R9WpB-0004K6-16 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 02:43:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R9Wp3-0004Ju-Qf for 9591@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 02:43:51 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LSB00K00P0ED100@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for 9591@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 09:42:43 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.228.74.35]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LSB00KGIPB77G40@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 09:42:43 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 02:44:03 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:51989 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 18:02:25 -0400 > Cc: rms@gnu.org, 9591@debbugs.gnu.org > > Having looked a bit more into it, I'm undecided: > we could go like you suggest and force users to type a leading space, > but at least for my own use this would be inconvenient, since I pretty > often need to get at hidden buffers, and often don't know the exact name > of the buffer I want (and I don't even always know whether it's a hidden > buffer or not, since Elisp authors aren't always very consistent about > it). So I find it very handy to just say "C-x b *foo TAB" (or indeed > just "C-x b foo TAB" in Emacs-24) and see all buffers that contain > "foo", regardless of whether they're hidden or not. > So it seems that both behaviors are desirable and I'm not sure how to > tell which to use when. There's what Lars suggested, which sounds like it can cater to both use cases. Failing that, add some non-default completion style which behaves like you want. I hope _you_ have no problems with customizing for non-default behavior ;-) > confirm-nonexistent-file-or-buffer already found resistance when > I introduced it I don't understand the resistance: that feature saved my a$$ a few times, when my fingers were faster than my brain.