bug#15539: 24.3; setting user-emacs-directory at command line invocation

bug#15539: 24.3; setting user-emacs-directory at command line invocation

[Mike Carifio]

-----------------------

I'd like a switch for the emacs command line, something like
--user-emacs-directory, that sets the user emacs directory on startup,
rather than hardcodes ~/.emacs.d/. So, for example:

  emacs --user-emacs-directory ~/mine.d/

Will look for the emacs init.el in ~/mine.d/init.el.

-----------------------




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bug#15539: Setting user-emacs-directory at command line invocation

[François Févotte]

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Hello,

attached is a patch which tries to implement the desired feature. It should
apply cleanly atop master (b91eafe31a524b391d5cec079cf8f36c2f9d5f30)

With this patch, emacs accepts a new command line argument:
    --user-emacs-directory=DIR
which has two effects:
1. it sets the `user-emacs-directory' variable to DIR (instead of the
default "~/.emacs.d")
2. it looks for the init file in DIR/init.el (and only there: ~/.emacs & co
are bypassed)

This doesn't impact anything else in emacs' startup sequence.

Implementationwise, I'm not very proud of having to define a new global
variable, but I fail to see how to do otherwise, except maybe wrapping the
whole `command-line' function in a let form to use a local binding.

Please do not hesitate to criticize or ask me for any modification which
would be desirable. This is the first patch I propose to emacs; I don't
expect to have it right on the first try.

Thanks in advance,

    François

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From cb6e52b3cd1bb6ff23a5c89b9838169ea216cf9b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: =?UTF-8?q?Fran=C3=A7ois=20F=C3=A9votte?= <fevotte@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 15:01:02 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] Add a `--user-emacs-directory' command-line option

This sets `user-emacs-directory' and looks for `init.el' in it.

Fixes: bug#15539
---
 doc/emacs/cmdargs.texi |   10 +++++++++-
 lisp/startup.el        |   16 +++++++++++++---
 lisp/subr.el           |    4 ++++
 3 files changed, 26 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

diff --git a/doc/emacs/cmdargs.texi b/doc/emacs/cmdargs.texi
index 42c8e33..be83aaa 100644
--- a/doc/emacs/cmdargs.texi
+++ b/doc/emacs/cmdargs.texi
@@ -349,7 +349,15 @@ Do not reload any saved desktop.  @xref{Saving Emacs Sessions}.
 @opindex --user
 @cindex load init file of another user
 Load @var{user}'s initialization file instead of your
-own@footnote{This option has no effect on MS-Windows.}.
+own@footnote{This option has no effect on MS-Windows, nor when
+@samp{--user-emacs-directory} is used}.
+
+@item --user-emacs-directory=@var{dir}
+@opindex --user-emacs-directory
+Look for the initialization file in @var{dir}, instead of the default
+@file{~/.emacs.d/}; @pxref{Init File}.  @var{dir} will also be used as
+the default directory where user-specific configuration data will be
+stored; @xref{Standard File Names,,, elisp}.
 
 @item --debug-init
 @opindex --debug-init
diff --git a/lisp/startup.el b/lisp/startup.el
index 999e53e..6f25c65 100644
--- a/lisp/startup.el
+++ b/lisp/startup.el
@@ -877,7 +877,7 @@ please check its value")
     (while (and (not done) args)
       (let* ((longopts '(("--no-init-file") ("--no-site-file") ("--debug-init")
                          ("--user") ("--iconic") ("--icon-type") ("--quick")
-			 ("--no-blinking-cursor") ("--basic-display")))
+			 ("--no-blinking-cursor") ("--basic-display") ("--user-emacs-directory")))
              (argi (pop args))
              (orig-argi argi)
              argval)
@@ -924,6 +924,10 @@ please check its value")
 	  (push '(visibility . icon) initial-frame-alist))
 	 ((member argi '("-nbc" "-no-blinking-cursor"))
 	  (setq no-blinking-cursor t))
+	 ((equal argi "-user-emacs-directory")
+	  (setq user-emacs-directory (file-name-as-directory (or argval (pop args)))
+		user-emacs-directory--set t
+		argval nil))
 	 ;; Push the popped arg back on the list of arguments.
 	 (t
           (push argi args)
@@ -1102,7 +1106,11 @@ please check its value")
 		      ;; This tells `load' to store the file name found
 		      ;; into user-init-file.
 		      (setq user-init-file t)
-		      (load user-init-file-1 t t)
+
+		      ;; Don't try to read `~/.emacs' if the user provided a
+		      ;; custom `user-emacs-directory' in the command-line.
+		      (unless user-emacs-directory--set
+			(load user-init-file-1 t t))
 
 		      (when (eq user-init-file t)
 			;; If we did not find ~/.emacs, try
@@ -1111,7 +1119,9 @@ please check its value")
 			       (expand-file-name
 				"init"
 				(file-name-as-directory
-				 (concat "~" init-file-user "/.emacs.d")))))
+				 (if user-emacs-directory--set
+				     user-emacs-directory
+				   (concat "~" init-file-user "/.emacs.d"))))))
 			  (load otherfile t t)
 
 			  ;; If we did not find the user's init file,
diff --git a/lisp/subr.el b/lisp/subr.el
index deadca6..c5c81b7 100644
--- a/lisp/subr.el
+++ b/lisp/subr.el
@@ -2545,6 +2545,10 @@ mode.")
 Various programs in Emacs store information in this directory.
 Note that this should end with a directory separator.
 See also `locate-user-emacs-file'.")
+
+(defvar user-emacs-directory--set nil
+  "Non-nil if the user provided a custom value for `user-emacs-directory'.
+This can be done via the `--user-emacs-directory' command-line switch.")
 \f
 ;;;; Misc. useful functions.
 
-- 
1.7.2.5

bug#15539: Setting user-emacs-directory at command line invocation

[Glenn Morris]

François Févotte wrote:

> Implementationwise, I'm not very proud of having to define a new global
> variable,

I'm not saying it's the right solution, but you could use an environment
variable (eg EMACS_USER_DIRECTORY) rather than a command-line switch to
control this. This would be consistent with eg EMACSDATA, and also I
think with how other applications normally let you control where they
look for their init files (?). But on the other hand, environment
variables can be easier to overlook than explicit flags eg when
debugging.

On the other other hand, the OP could just do

ln -s mine.d .emacs.d

so I'm not sure what the point of this feature would be, unless eg you
frequently want to swap between different .emacs.d's?

bug#15539: Setting user-emacs-directory at command line invocation

[François Févotte]

Hi,

thanks for your comment.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:36 AM, Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> wrote:
> I'm not saying it's the right solution, but you could use an environment
> variable (eg EMACS_USER_DIRECTORY) rather than a command-line switch to
> control this. This would be consistent with eg EMACSDATA, and also I
> think with how other applications normally let you control where they
> look for their init files (?). But on the other hand, environment
> variables can be easier to overlook than explicit flags eg when
> debugging.

Yes, you're right, this is a very good idea. I'll develop a new patch
for this as soon as I can.


> On the other other hand, the OP could just do
>
> ln -s mine.d .emacs.d
>
> so I'm not sure what the point of this feature would be, unless eg you
> frequently want to swap between different .emacs.d's?

I'm not sure about the OP's use case, but I can tell about mine: at
work, I try to maintain a sensible set of init files for my co-workers
to use (with the very outdated default version that we have installed
by default on our systems: 23.2). On the other hand, on my machine, I
maintain a locally-installed Emacs version that is more up-to-date. In
order to maintain both sets of init files, I need to be able to run
both versions of Emacs at the same time, which prevents me from
symlinking ~/.emacs.d/

There are reddit and stackexchange questions hinting at the same kind of use:

http://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/2y1b3a/how_can_i_easily_keep_different_emacsd_folders/
http://emacs.stackexchange.com/q/4253/221


Since these questions concern a broader audience, do you think that we
should add emacs-devel to this discussion?

Thanks,

François

bug#15539: Setting user-emacs-directory at command line invocation

[François Févotte]

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On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:36 AM, Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> wrote:
> I'm not saying it's the right solution, but you could use an environment
> variable (eg EMACS_USER_DIRECTORY) rather than a command-line switch to
> control this.

Attached is a new patch implementing this idea. The differences with
respect to the first version are:

1- `user-emacs-directory' is read in the `EMACS_USER_DIRECTORY'
environment variable instead of from the command-line;

2- a few custom variables are declared in
`custom-delayed-init-variables' in order to account for the new value
of `user-emacs-directory'.

Once again, please don't hesitate to comment.

    François

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From f98d2af08d2346121556f4fd91628dc0316cbff0 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: =?UTF-8?q?Fran=C3=A7ois=20F=C3=A9votte?= <fevotte@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 08:50:01 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] Look for an `EMACS_USER_DIRECTORY' environment variable.

This sets `user-emacs-directory' and looks for `init.el' in it.

Fixes: bug#15539
---
 doc/emacs/cmdargs.texi |    9 ++++++++-
 doc/emacs/custom.texi  |    8 ++++++++
 lisp/custom.el         |    1 +
 lisp/startup.el        |   21 +++++++++++++++++----
 4 files changed, 34 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)

diff --git a/doc/emacs/cmdargs.texi b/doc/emacs/cmdargs.texi
index 42c8e33..1cc8ac3 100644
--- a/doc/emacs/cmdargs.texi
+++ b/doc/emacs/cmdargs.texi
@@ -349,7 +349,9 @@ Do not reload any saved desktop.  @xref{Saving Emacs Sessions}.
 @opindex --user
 @cindex load init file of another user
 Load @var{user}'s initialization file instead of your
-own@footnote{This option has no effect on MS-Windows.}.
+own@footnote{This option has no effect on MS-Windows, nor when the
+@env{EMACS_USER_DIRECTORY} environment variable is set (@pxref{General
+Variables}).}.
 
 @item --debug-init
 @opindex --debug-init
@@ -600,6 +602,11 @@ does not use @env{TZ} at all.
 @item USER
 The user's login name.  See also @env{LOGNAME}.  On MS-DOS, this
 defaults to @samp{root}.
+@item EMACS_USER_DIRECTORY
+This specifies a directory in which the initialization file will be
+looked for; @xref{Find Init}. This directory will also be used as the
+default place where user-specific configuration data will be stored;
+@xref{Standard File Names,,, elisp}.
 @item VERSION_CONTROL
 Used to initialize the @code{version-control} variable (@pxref{Backup
 Names}).
diff --git a/doc/emacs/custom.texi b/doc/emacs/custom.texi
index 9fd823b..1e1d482 100644
--- a/doc/emacs/custom.texi
+++ b/doc/emacs/custom.texi
@@ -2516,6 +2516,14 @@ otherwise, it looks up the home directory corresponding to that user
 name in the system's data base of users.
 @c  LocalWords:  backtab
 
+  The whole mechanism described above is bypassed if the
+@env{EMACS_USER_DIRECTORY} environment variable is specified, in which
+case Emacs directly looks for @file{init.el} inside the directory
+specified by @env{EMACS_USER_DIRECTORY} (@pxref{General Variables}).
+This directory is also used to hold user-specific configuration
+(@pxref{Standard File Names,,, elisp}).
+
+
 @node Init Non-ASCII
 @subsection Non-@acronym{ASCII} Characters in Init Files
 @cindex international characters in @file{.emacs}
diff --git a/lisp/custom.el b/lisp/custom.el
index e5fe0eb..36983aa 100644
--- a/lisp/custom.el
+++ b/lisp/custom.el
@@ -1119,6 +1119,7 @@ directory.  By default, Emacs searches for custom themes in this
 directory first---see `custom-theme-load-path'."
   :type 'string
   :group 'customize
+  :initialize 'custom-initialize-delay
   :version "22.1")
 
 (defcustom custom-theme-load-path (list 'custom-theme-directory t)
diff --git a/lisp/startup.el b/lisp/startup.el
index 7fa929a..2b2c324 100644
--- a/lisp/startup.el
+++ b/lisp/startup.el
@@ -397,7 +397,8 @@ Set this to nil if you want to prevent `auto-save-list-file-name'
 from being initialized."
   :type '(choice (const :tag "Don't record a session's auto save list" nil)
 		 string)
-  :group 'auto-save)
+  :group 'auto-save
+  :initialize 'custom-initialize-delay)
 
 (defvar emacs-basic-display nil)
 
@@ -814,6 +815,12 @@ Amongst another things, it parses the command-line arguments."
 	  ((member vc '("never" "simple"))
 	   (setq version-control 'never))))
 
+  ;; Set `user-emacs-directory' early so that delayed init variables
+  ;; can be updated.
+  (let ((ued (getenv "EMACS_USER_DIRECTORY")))
+    (when ued
+      (setq user-emacs-directory (file-name-as-directory ued))))
+
   ;;! This has been commented out; I currently find the behavior when
   ;;! split-window-keep-point is nil disturbing, but if I can get used
   ;;! to it, then it would be better to eliminate the option.
@@ -1101,11 +1108,15 @@ please check its value")
 				    delayed-warnings-list)
 			      "~/_emacs")
 			     (t ;; But default to .emacs if _emacs does not exist.
-			      "~/.emacs"))))
+			      "~/.emacs")))
+                          (user-emacs-directory--from-env (getenv "EMACS_USER_DIRECTORY")))
 		      ;; This tells `load' to store the file name found
 		      ;; into user-init-file.
 		      (setq user-init-file t)
-		      (load user-init-file-1 t t)
+
+                      ;; Don't load `~/.emacs' if EMACS_USER_DIRECTORY was set
+                      (unless user-emacs-directory--from-env
+                        (load user-init-file-1 t t))
 
 		      (when (eq user-init-file t)
 			;; If we did not find ~/.emacs, try
@@ -1114,7 +1125,9 @@ please check its value")
 			       (expand-file-name
 				"init"
 				(file-name-as-directory
-				 (concat "~" init-file-user "/.emacs.d")))))
+                                 (if user-emacs-directory--from-env
+                                     user-emacs-directory
+                                   (concat "~" init-file-user "/.emacs.d"))))))
 			  (load otherfile t t)
 
 			  ;; If we did not find the user's init file,
-- 
1.7.2.5

bug#15539: [PATCH] Setting user-emacs-directory

[Alexis]

Ping!

Someone on reddit recently enquired about the status of this 
issue:

https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/44ojpk/interpreting_the_emacs_bug_list_what_was/

Are there any particular things blocking this patch from being 
applied?


Alexis.

bug#15539: [PATCH] Setting user-emacs-directory

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Alexis <flexibeast@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 21:31:23 +1100
> 
> 
> Ping!
> 
> Someone on reddit recently enquired about the status of this 
> issue:
> 
> https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/44ojpk/interpreting_the_emacs_bug_list_what_was/
> 
> Are there any particular things blocking this patch from being 
> applied?

Frankly, I don't think there are important enough use cases behind
this request to add yet another option that allows to change a
well-established constant.  But that's me.  (Didn't see any
enthusiastic reactions from others, either.  Not sure what that
means.)

bug#15539: [PATCH] Setting user-emacs-directory

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Alexis <flexibeast@gmail.com>
>> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 21:31:23 +1100
>> 
>> 
>> Ping!
>> 
>> Someone on reddit recently enquired about the status of this 
>> issue:
>> 
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/44ojpk/interpreting_the_emacs_bug_list_what_was/
>> 
>> Are there any particular things blocking this patch from being 
>> applied?
>
> Frankly, I don't think there are important enough use cases behind
> this request to add yet another option that allows to change a
> well-established constant.  But that's me.  (Didn't see any
> enthusiastic reactions from others, either.  Not sure what that
> means.)

I think it might make sense...  it might make some debugging and testing
cases easier, for instance.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

bug#15539: [PATCH] Setting user-emacs-directory

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> Cc: Alexis <flexibeast@gmail.com>,  15539@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 15:03:31 +1100
> 
> > Frankly, I don't think there are important enough use cases behind
> > this request to add yet another option that allows to change a
> > well-established constant.  But that's me.  (Didn't see any
> > enthusiastic reactions from others, either.  Not sure what that
> > means.)
> 
> I think it might make sense...  it might make some debugging and testing
> cases easier, for instance.

You mean, the need to temporarily point HOME to some other place?  Is
that really so problematic as to require yet another knob in Emacs?

bug#15539: [PATCH] Setting user-emacs-directory

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> I think it might make sense...  it might make some debugging and testing
>> cases easier, for instance.
>
> You mean, the need to temporarily point HOME to some other place?  Is
> that really so problematic as to require yet another knob in Emacs?

Yeah, that's true.  HOME is easy to switch around, so it doesn't make
much sense to offer this extra knob.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

bug#15539: comment

[Max]

As an Emacs user I would like to kindly request you to reconsider this bug.

I think that the added complexity (look at the patch size, and even that is more
comments than code) is more than justified by the convenience it adds. Yes, there are
some workarounds which are either cumbersome (like fiddling with symlinks) or break
things (like adjusting $HOME). Using straightforward approach is better because it's
100% backward-compatible, easy to use and aligns well with user expectations (many
other programs allow you to override default config location with environment variable).

best regards,
Max.

bug#15539: comment

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Max <maxim.suraev@campus.tu-berlin.de>
> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 23:32:01 +0100
> 
> As an Emacs user I would like to kindly request you to reconsider this bug.
> 
> I think that the added complexity (look at the patch size, and even that is more
> comments than code) is more than justified by the convenience it adds.

The "complexity" mentioned in the discussion of this bug did not
allude to the size or complexity of the patch, it alluded to the
complexity this would add to Emacs and its development/maintenance:
where previously user-emacs-directory and the directory pointed to by
HOME in the environment were one and the same, now they will not be.

I think if we want to revisit this issue, we should come up with the
use cases where this feature would be useful, and see if they are
important enough to justify the price.  AFAIR, no use cases were
provided with the original request.

Thanks.

bug#15539: comment

[Evgeny Roubinchtein]

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Just out of curiosity: is being compliant with the XDG Base Directory
Specification out-of-the-box (
https://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-0.6.html)
currently viewed as a non-goal for Emacs?  (The emphasis being on
"out-of-the-box").

On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 3:28 AM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

> > From: Max <maxim.suraev@campus.tu-berlin.de>
> > Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 23:32:01 +0100
> >
> > As an Emacs user I would like to kindly request you to reconsider this
> bug.
> >
> > I think that the added complexity (look at the patch size, and even that
> is more
> > comments than code) is more than justified by the convenience it adds.
>
> The "complexity" mentioned in the discussion of this bug did not
> allude to the size or complexity of the patch, it alluded to the
> complexity this would add to Emacs and its development/maintenance:
> where previously user-emacs-directory and the directory pointed to by
> HOME in the environment were one and the same, now they will not be.
>
> I think if we want to revisit this issue, we should come up with the
> use cases where this feature would be useful, and see if they are
> important enough to justify the price.  AFAIR, no use cases were
> provided with the original request.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>

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bug#15539: comment

[Noam Postavsky]

On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 8:42 AM, Evgeny Roubinchtein
<zhenya1007@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just out of curiosity: is being compliant with the XDG Base Directory
> Specification out-of-the-box
> (https://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-0.6.html)
> currently viewed as a non-goal for Emacs?  (The emphasis being on
> "out-of-the-box").

See https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=583 - some skepticism
More recent effort:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2016-09/msg00167.html -
seems to have stalled.

bug#15539: comment

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Evgeny Roubinchtein <zhenya1007@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2016 08:42:48 -0400
> Cc: Max <maxim.suraev@campus.tu-berlin.de>, 15539@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> Just out of curiosity: is being compliant with the XDG Base Directory Specification out-of-the-box
> (https://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-0.6.html) currently viewed as a non-goal for
> Emacs? (The emphasis being on "out-of-the-box").

I don't think there's any decision about that, either way.

bug#15539: comment

[Glenn Morris]

I think the case for adding this feature has been very well made in

https://debbugs.gnu.org/15539#66

and others, and personally I think it seems worth adding.

See also https://debbugs.gnu.org/25163, esp #47 and #50.

(I'd also like to see support for an XDG-style layout as an option (the
default is another matter), compared to which this is very small beer.)

bug#15539: [PATCH] Setting user-emacs-directory

[François Févotte]

Hello,

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:25 AM, François Févotte <fevotte@gmail.com> wrote:
> below is a patch trying to address old bug #15539.

after the lack of reaction to my last email, I would like to have one
more chance of getting emacs-devel's feedback on this issue (namely:
being able to tell Emacs where to find its init file).

Is nobody interested in this feature?  Or is the proposed patch not adequate?
In the former case, please just say so, so that we can maybe mark the
bug as "wontfix" and let it be clear.  In the latter case, I'm still
welcoming any comment on the proposed solution.  And of course I'm
willing to work on any improvement you might suggest.

Thanks in advance,
   François

bug#15539: [PATCH] Setting user-emacs-directory

[Oleh Krehel]

François Févotte <francois.fevotte@ensta.org> writes:

> Hello,
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:25 AM, François Févotte <fevotte@gmail.com> wrote:
>> below is a patch trying to address old bug #15539.
>
> after the lack of reaction to my last email, I would like to have one
> more chance of getting emacs-devel's feedback on this issue (namely:
> being able to tell Emacs where to find its init file).
>
> Is nobody interested in this feature?  Or is the proposed patch not adequate?
> In the former case, please just say so, so that we can maybe mark the
> bug as "wontfix" and let it be clear.  In the latter case, I'm still
> welcoming any comment on the proposed solution.  And of course I'm
> willing to work on any improvement you might suggest.

I'm interested in this feature, I just didn't have time to test it yet.
I'll try to look at it soon.

Oleh

bug#15539: [PATCH] Setting user-emacs-directory

[Drew Adams]

> I'm interested in this feature, I just didn't have time to test it yet.
> I'll try to look at it soon.

Can y'all please drop one of the mailing lists (e.g. emacs-devel)?  Thx.

bug#15539: [PATCH] Setting user-emacs-directory

[Oleh Krehel]

Oleh Krehel <ohwoeowho@gmail.com> writes:

> François Févotte <francois.fevotte@ensta.org> writes:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:25 AM, François Févotte <fevotte@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> below is a patch trying to address old bug #15539.
>>
>> after the lack of reaction to my last email, I would like to have one
>> more chance of getting emacs-devel's feedback on this issue (namely:
>> being able to tell Emacs where to find its init file).
>>
>> Is nobody interested in this feature?  Or is the proposed patch not adequate?
>> In the former case, please just say so, so that we can maybe mark the
>> bug as "wontfix" and let it be clear.  In the latter case, I'm still
>> welcoming any comment on the proposed solution.  And of course I'm
>> willing to work on any improvement you might suggest.
>
> I'm interested in this feature, I just didn't have time to test it yet.
> I'll try to look at it soon.

OK, I've tested it and it works great. I vote for merging this if
someone is counting.

Just one question: why is `getenv' called twice?

Oleh

bug#15539: [PATCH] Setting user-emacs-directory

[François Févotte]

Thanks for testing

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Oleh Krehel <ohwoeowho@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just one question: why is `getenv' called twice?

with the currently implemented logic, the environment variable has two
different impacts: (1) it sets the `user-emacs-directory' variable,
and (2) it changes the logic used to determine the init file. There is
currently no `let' form encompassing the whole `command-line'
function, so I had to either
1- add one (which might be the most correct implementation, but
generates a very large patch for mostly unchanged lines)
2- define a global variable (which seems unnecessary), or
3- call `getenv' multiple times.

I chose the latter, but am perfectly open to rewriting the
implementation if you feel it would be better.

    François

bug#15539: [PATCH] Setting user-emacs-directory

[Stefan Monnier]

> 1- add one (which might be the most correct implementation, but
> generates a very large patch for mostly unchanged lines)

That's the better option.
You can ask diff to ignore whitespace changes, which keeps the patch readable.


        Stefan

bug#15539: [PATCH] Setting user-emacs-directory

[François Févotte]

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Here is a new version introducing a `let' form spanning everything
needed.  There is no need for two calls to `getenv' anymore.
I've attached the patch in two versions: with and without whitespace
changes (git diff -b), to make it easier to review.


Thanks,
   François

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Stefan Monnier
<monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>> 1- add one (which might be the most correct implementation, but
>> generates a very large patch for mostly unchanged lines)
>
> That's the better option.
> You can ask diff to ignore whitespace changes, which keeps the patch readable.
>
>
>         Stefan

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From e15fd3120a995e38708ca73d293973dd8e596b22 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: =?UTF-8?q?Fran=C3=A7ois=20F=C3=A9votte?= <francois.fevotte@ensta.org>
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 09:17:03 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] Look for an `EMACS_USER_DIRECTORY' environment variable.

This sets `user-emacs-directory' and looks for `init.el' in it.

Fixes: bug#15539
---
 doc/emacs/cmdargs.texi |    9 ++++++++-
 doc/emacs/custom.texi  |    8 ++++++++
 lisp/custom.el         |    1 +
 lisp/startup.el        |   20 ++++++++++++++++----
 4 files changed, 33 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)

diff --git a/doc/emacs/cmdargs.texi b/doc/emacs/cmdargs.texi
index 071cd68..30d3472 100644
--- a/doc/emacs/cmdargs.texi
+++ b/doc/emacs/cmdargs.texi
@@ -349,7 +349,9 @@ Do not reload any saved desktop.  @xref{Saving Emacs Sessions}.
 @opindex --user
 @cindex load init file of another user
 Load @var{user}'s initialization file instead of your
-own@footnote{This option has no effect on MS-Windows.}.
+own@footnote{This option has no effect on MS-Windows, nor when the
+@env{EMACS_USER_DIRECTORY} environment variable is set (@pxref{General
+Variables}).}.
 
 @item --debug-init
 @opindex --debug-init
@@ -642,6 +644,11 @@ does not use @env{TZ} at all.
 @vindex USER, environment variable
 The user's login name.  See also @env{LOGNAME}.  On MS-DOS, this
 defaults to @samp{root}.
+@item EMACS_USER_DIRECTORY
+This specifies a directory in which the initialization file will be
+looked for; @xref{Find Init}. This directory will also be used as the
+default place where user-specific configuration data will be stored;
+@xref{Standard File Names,,, elisp}.
 @item VERSION_CONTROL
 @vindex VERSION_CONTROL, environment variable
 Used to initialize the @code{version-control} variable (@pxref{Backup
diff --git a/doc/emacs/custom.texi b/doc/emacs/custom.texi
index 9fd823b..1e1d482 100644
--- a/doc/emacs/custom.texi
+++ b/doc/emacs/custom.texi
@@ -2516,6 +2516,14 @@ otherwise, it looks up the home directory corresponding to that user
 name in the system's data base of users.
 @c  LocalWords:  backtab
 
+  The whole mechanism described above is bypassed if the
+@env{EMACS_USER_DIRECTORY} environment variable is specified, in which
+case Emacs directly looks for @file{init.el} inside the directory
+specified by @env{EMACS_USER_DIRECTORY} (@pxref{General Variables}).
+This directory is also used to hold user-specific configuration
+(@pxref{Standard File Names,,, elisp}).
+
+
 @node Init Non-ASCII
 @subsection Non-@acronym{ASCII} Characters in Init Files
 @cindex international characters in @file{.emacs}
diff --git a/lisp/custom.el b/lisp/custom.el
index e5fe0eb..36983aa 100644
--- a/lisp/custom.el
+++ b/lisp/custom.el
@@ -1119,6 +1119,7 @@ directory.  By default, Emacs searches for custom themes in this
 directory first---see `custom-theme-load-path'."
   :type 'string
   :group 'customize
+  :initialize 'custom-initialize-delay
   :version "22.1")
 
 (defcustom custom-theme-load-path (list 'custom-theme-directory t)
diff --git a/lisp/startup.el b/lisp/startup.el
index 7fa929a..1c403c6 100644
--- a/lisp/startup.el
+++ b/lisp/startup.el
@@ -397,7 +397,8 @@ Set this to nil if you want to prevent `auto-save-list-file-name'
 from being initialized."
   :type '(choice (const :tag "Don't record a session's auto save list" nil)
 		 string)
-  :group 'auto-save)
+  :group 'auto-save
+  :initialize 'custom-initialize-delay)
 
 (defvar emacs-basic-display nil)
 
@@ -814,6 +815,12 @@ Amongst another things, it parses the command-line arguments."
 	  ((member vc '("never" "simple"))
 	   (setq version-control 'never))))
 
+  ;; Set `user-emacs-directory' early so that delayed init variables
+  ;; can be updated.
+  (let ((user-emacs-directory--from-env (getenv "EMACS_USER_DIRECTORY")))
+    (when user-emacs-directory--from-env
+      (setq user-emacs-directory (file-name-as-directory user-emacs-directory--from-env)))
+
   ;;! This has been commented out; I currently find the behavior when
   ;;! split-window-keep-point is nil disturbing, but if I can get used
   ;;! to it, then it would be better to eliminate the option.
@@ -1105,7 +1112,10 @@ please check its value")
 		      ;; This tells `load' to store the file name found
 		      ;; into user-init-file.
 		      (setq user-init-file t)
-		      (load user-init-file-1 t t)
+
+                        ;; Don't load `~/.emacs' if EMACS_USER_DIRECTORY was set
+                        (unless user-emacs-directory--from-env
+                          (load user-init-file-1 t t))
 
 		      (when (eq user-init-file t)
 			;; If we did not find ~/.emacs, try
@@ -1114,7 +1124,9 @@ please check its value")
 			       (expand-file-name
 				"init"
 				(file-name-as-directory
-				 (concat "~" init-file-user "/.emacs.d")))))
+                                   (if user-emacs-directory--from-env
+                                       user-emacs-directory
+                                     (concat "~" init-file-user "/.emacs.d"))))))
 			  (load otherfile t t)
 
 			  ;; If we did not find the user's init file,
@@ -1227,7 +1239,7 @@ the `--debug-init' option to view a complete error backtrace."
     ;; be realized.
     (unless (and (eq scalable-fonts-allowed old-scalable-fonts-allowed)
 		 (eq face-ignored-fonts old-face-ignored-fonts))
-      (clear-face-cache)))
+        (clear-face-cache))))
 
   ;; If any package directory exists, initialize the package system.
   (and user-init-file
-- 
1.7.2.5


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From e15fd3120a995e38708ca73d293973dd8e596b22 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: =?UTF-8?q?Fran=C3=A7ois=20F=C3=A9votte?= <francois.fevotte@ensta.org>
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 09:17:03 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] Look for an `EMACS_USER_DIRECTORY' environment variable.

This sets `user-emacs-directory' and looks for `init.el' in it.

Fixes: bug#15539
---
 doc/emacs/cmdargs.texi |    9 +-
 doc/emacs/custom.texi  |    8 +
 lisp/custom.el         |    1 +
 lisp/startup.el        |  832 ++++++++++++++++++++++++------------------------
 4 files changed, 439 insertions(+), 411 deletions(-)

diff --git a/doc/emacs/cmdargs.texi b/doc/emacs/cmdargs.texi
index 071cd68..30d3472 100644
--- a/doc/emacs/cmdargs.texi
+++ b/doc/emacs/cmdargs.texi
@@ -349,7 +349,9 @@ Do not reload any saved desktop.  @xref{Saving Emacs Sessions}.
 @opindex --user
 @cindex load init file of another user
 Load @var{user}'s initialization file instead of your
-own@footnote{This option has no effect on MS-Windows.}.
+own@footnote{This option has no effect on MS-Windows, nor when the
+@env{EMACS_USER_DIRECTORY} environment variable is set (@pxref{General
+Variables}).}.
 
 @item --debug-init
 @opindex --debug-init
@@ -642,6 +644,11 @@ does not use @env{TZ} at all.
 @vindex USER, environment variable
 The user's login name.  See also @env{LOGNAME}.  On MS-DOS, this
 defaults to @samp{root}.
+@item EMACS_USER_DIRECTORY
+This specifies a directory in which the initialization file will be
+looked for; @xref{Find Init}. This directory will also be used as the
+default place where user-specific configuration data will be stored;
+@xref{Standard File Names,,, elisp}.
 @item VERSION_CONTROL
 @vindex VERSION_CONTROL, environment variable
 Used to initialize the @code{version-control} variable (@pxref{Backup
diff --git a/doc/emacs/custom.texi b/doc/emacs/custom.texi
index 9fd823b..1e1d482 100644
--- a/doc/emacs/custom.texi
+++ b/doc/emacs/custom.texi
@@ -2516,6 +2516,14 @@ otherwise, it looks up the home directory corresponding to that user
 name in the system's data base of users.
 @c  LocalWords:  backtab
 
+  The whole mechanism described above is bypassed if the
+@env{EMACS_USER_DIRECTORY} environment variable is specified, in which
+case Emacs directly looks for @file{init.el} inside the directory
+specified by @env{EMACS_USER_DIRECTORY} (@pxref{General Variables}).
+This directory is also used to hold user-specific configuration
+(@pxref{Standard File Names,,, elisp}).
+
+
 @node Init Non-ASCII
 @subsection Non-@acronym{ASCII} Characters in Init Files
 @cindex international characters in @file{.emacs}
diff --git a/lisp/custom.el b/lisp/custom.el
index e5fe0eb..36983aa 100644
--- a/lisp/custom.el
+++ b/lisp/custom.el
@@ -1119,6 +1119,7 @@ directory.  By default, Emacs searches for custom themes in this
 directory first---see `custom-theme-load-path'."
   :type 'string
   :group 'customize
+  :initialize 'custom-initialize-delay
   :version "22.1")
 
 (defcustom custom-theme-load-path (list 'custom-theme-directory t)
diff --git a/lisp/startup.el b/lisp/startup.el
index 7fa929a..1c403c6 100644
--- a/lisp/startup.el
+++ b/lisp/startup.el
@@ -397,7 +397,8 @@ Set this to nil if you want to prevent `auto-save-list-file-name'
 from being initialized."
   :type '(choice (const :tag "Don't record a session's auto save list" nil)
 		 string)
-  :group 'auto-save)
+  :group 'auto-save
+  :initialize 'custom-initialize-delay)
 
 (defvar emacs-basic-display nil)
 
@@ -814,420 +815,431 @@ Amongst another things, it parses the command-line arguments."
 	  ((member vc '("never" "simple"))
 	   (setq version-control 'never))))
 
-  ;;! This has been commented out; I currently find the behavior when
-  ;;! split-window-keep-point is nil disturbing, but if I can get used
-  ;;! to it, then it would be better to eliminate the option.
-  ;;! ;; Choose a good default value for split-window-keep-point.
-  ;;! (setq split-window-keep-point (> baud-rate 2400))
-
-  ;; Convert preloaded file names in load-history to absolute.
-  (let ((simple-file-name
-	 ;; Look for simple.el or simple.elc and use their directory
-	 ;; as the place where all Lisp files live.
-	 (locate-file "simple" load-path (get-load-suffixes)))
-	lisp-dir)
-    ;; Don't abort if simple.el cannot be found, but print a warning.
-    ;; Although in most usage we are going to cryptically abort a moment
-    ;; later anyway, due to missing required bidi data files (eg bug#13430).
-    (if (null simple-file-name)
-	(let ((standard-output 'external-debugging-output)
-	      (lispdir (expand-file-name "../lisp" data-directory)))
-	  (princ "Warning: Could not find simple.el or simple.elc")
-	  (terpri)
-	  (when (getenv "EMACSLOADPATH")
-	    (princ "The EMACSLOADPATH environment variable is set, \
+  ;; Set `user-emacs-directory' early so that delayed init variables
+  ;; can be updated.
+  (let ((user-emacs-directory--from-env (getenv "EMACS_USER_DIRECTORY")))
+    (when user-emacs-directory--from-env
+      (setq user-emacs-directory (file-name-as-directory user-emacs-directory--from-env)))
+
+    ;;! This has been commented out; I currently find the behavior when
+    ;;! split-window-keep-point is nil disturbing, but if I can get used
+    ;;! to it, then it would be better to eliminate the option.
+    ;;! ;; Choose a good default value for split-window-keep-point.
+    ;;! (setq split-window-keep-point (> baud-rate 2400))
+
+    ;; Convert preloaded file names in load-history to absolute.
+    (let ((simple-file-name
+           ;; Look for simple.el or simple.elc and use their directory
+           ;; as the place where all Lisp files live.
+           (locate-file "simple" load-path (get-load-suffixes)))
+          lisp-dir)
+      ;; Don't abort if simple.el cannot be found, but print a warning.
+      ;; Although in most usage we are going to cryptically abort a moment
+      ;; later anyway, due to missing required bidi data files (eg bug#13430).
+      (if (null simple-file-name)
+          (let ((standard-output 'external-debugging-output)
+                (lispdir (expand-file-name "../lisp" data-directory)))
+            (princ "Warning: Could not find simple.el or simple.elc")
+            (terpri)
+            (when (getenv "EMACSLOADPATH")
+              (princ "The EMACSLOADPATH environment variable is set, \
 please check its value")
-	    (terpri))
-	  (unless (file-readable-p lispdir)
-	    (princ (format "Lisp directory %s not readable?" lispdir))
-	    (terpri)))
-      (setq lisp-dir (file-truename (file-name-directory simple-file-name)))
-      (setq load-history
-	    (mapcar (lambda (elt)
-		      (if (and (stringp (car elt))
-			       (not (file-name-absolute-p (car elt))))
-			  (cons (concat lisp-dir
-					(car elt))
-				(cdr elt))
-			elt))
-		    load-history))))
-
-  ;; Convert the arguments to Emacs internal representation.
-  (let ((args command-line-args))
-    (while args
-      (setcar args
-	      (decode-coding-string (car args) locale-coding-system t))
-      (pop args)))
-
-  (let ((done nil)
-	(args (cdr command-line-args))
-	display-arg)
-
-    ;; Figure out which user's init file to load,
-    ;; either from the environment or from the options.
-    (setq init-file-user (if noninteractive nil (user-login-name)))
-    ;; If user has not done su, use current $HOME to find .emacs.
-    (and init-file-user
-         (equal init-file-user (user-real-login-name))
-	 (setq init-file-user ""))
-
-    ;; Process the command-line args, and delete the arguments
-    ;; processed.  This is consistent with the way main in emacs.c
-    ;; does things.
-    (while (and (not done) args)
-      (let* ((longopts '(("--no-init-file") ("--no-site-file")
-                         ("--no-x-resources") ("--debug-init")
-                         ("--user") ("--iconic") ("--icon-type") ("--quick")
-			 ("--no-blinking-cursor") ("--basic-display")))
-             (argi (pop args))
-             (orig-argi argi)
-             argval)
-	;; Handle --OPTION=VALUE format.
-	(when (string-match "\\`\\(--[^=]*\\)=" argi)
-	  (setq argval (substring argi (match-end 0))
-                argi (match-string 1 argi)))
-	(when (string-match "\\`--." orig-argi)
-	  (let ((completion (try-completion argi longopts)))
-	    (cond ((eq completion t)
-		   (setq argi (substring argi 1)))
-		  ((stringp completion)
-		   (let ((elt (assoc completion longopts)))
-		     (unless elt
-		       (error "Option `%s' is ambiguous" argi))
-		     (setq argi (substring (car elt) 1))))
-		  (t
-		   (setq argval nil
-			 argi orig-argi)))))
-	(cond
-	 ;; The --display arg is handled partly in C, partly in Lisp.
-	 ;; When it shows up here, we just put it back to be handled
-	 ;; by `command-line-1'.
-	 ((member argi '("-d" "-display"))
-	  (setq display-arg (list argi (pop args))))
-	 ((member argi '("-Q" "-quick"))
-	  (setq init-file-user nil
-		site-run-file nil
-                inhibit-x-resources t))
-         ((member argi '("-no-x-resources"))
-          (setq inhibit-x-resources t))
-	 ((member argi '("-D" "-basic-display"))
-	  (setq no-blinking-cursor t
-		emacs-basic-display t)
-	  (push '(vertical-scroll-bars . nil) initial-frame-alist))
-	 ((member argi '("-q" "-no-init-file"))
-	  (setq init-file-user nil))
-	 ((member argi '("-u" "-user"))
-	  (setq init-file-user (or argval (pop args))
-		argval nil))
-	 ((equal argi "-no-site-file")
-	  (setq site-run-file nil))
-	 ((equal argi "-debug-init")
-	  (setq init-file-debug t))
-	 ((equal argi "-iconic")
-	  (push '(visibility . icon) initial-frame-alist))
-	 ((member argi '("-nbc" "-no-blinking-cursor"))
-	  (setq no-blinking-cursor t))
-	 ;; Push the popped arg back on the list of arguments.
-	 (t
-          (push argi args)
-          (setq done t)))
-	;; Was argval set but not used?
-	(and argval
-	     (error "Option `%s' doesn't allow an argument" argi))))
-
-    ;; Re-attach the --display arg.
-    (and display-arg (setq args (append display-arg args)))
-
-    ;; Re-attach the program name to the front of the arg list.
-    (and command-line-args
-         (setcdr command-line-args args)))
-
-  ;; Make sure window system's init file was loaded in loadup.el if
-  ;; using a window system.
-  ;; Initialize the window-system only after processing the command-line
-  ;; args so that -Q can influence this initialization.
-  (condition-case error
-    (unless noninteractive
-      (if (and initial-window-system
-	       (not (featurep
-		     (intern
-		      (concat (symbol-name initial-window-system) "-win")))))
-	  (error "Unsupported window system `%s'" initial-window-system))
-      ;; Process window-system specific command line parameters.
-      (setq command-line-args
-	    (funcall
-             (gui-method handle-args-function initial-window-system)
-	     command-line-args))
-      ;; Initialize the window system. (Open connection, etc.)
-      (funcall
-       (gui-method window-system-initialization initial-window-system))
-      (put initial-window-system 'window-system-initialized t))
-    ;; If there was an error, print the error message and exit.
-    (error
-     (princ
-      (if (eq (car error) 'error)
-	  (apply 'concat (cdr error))
-	(if (memq 'file-error (get (car error) 'error-conditions))
-	    (format "%s: %s"
-                    (nth 1 error)
+              (terpri))
+            (unless (file-readable-p lispdir)
+              (princ (format "Lisp directory %s not readable?" lispdir))
+              (terpri)))
+        (setq lisp-dir (file-truename (file-name-directory simple-file-name)))
+        (setq load-history
+              (mapcar (lambda (elt)
+                        (if (and (stringp (car elt))
+                                 (not (file-name-absolute-p (car elt))))
+                            (cons (concat lisp-dir
+                                          (car elt))
+                                  (cdr elt))
+                          elt))
+                      load-history))))
+
+    ;; Convert the arguments to Emacs internal representation.
+    (let ((args command-line-args))
+      (while args
+        (setcar args
+                (decode-coding-string (car args) locale-coding-system t))
+        (pop args)))
+
+    (let ((done nil)
+          (args (cdr command-line-args))
+          display-arg)
+
+      ;; Figure out which user's init file to load,
+      ;; either from the environment or from the options.
+      (setq init-file-user (if noninteractive nil (user-login-name)))
+      ;; If user has not done su, use current $HOME to find .emacs.
+      (and init-file-user
+           (equal init-file-user (user-real-login-name))
+           (setq init-file-user ""))
+
+      ;; Process the command-line args, and delete the arguments
+      ;; processed.  This is consistent with the way main in emacs.c
+      ;; does things.
+      (while (and (not done) args)
+        (let* ((longopts '(("--no-init-file") ("--no-site-file")
+                           ("--no-x-resources") ("--debug-init")
+                           ("--user") ("--iconic") ("--icon-type") ("--quick")
+                           ("--no-blinking-cursor") ("--basic-display")))
+               (argi (pop args))
+               (orig-argi argi)
+               argval)
+          ;; Handle --OPTION=VALUE format.
+          (when (string-match "\\`\\(--[^=]*\\)=" argi)
+            (setq argval (substring argi (match-end 0))
+                  argi (match-string 1 argi)))
+          (when (string-match "\\`--." orig-argi)
+            (let ((completion (try-completion argi longopts)))
+              (cond ((eq completion t)
+                     (setq argi (substring argi 1)))
+                    ((stringp completion)
+                     (let ((elt (assoc completion longopts)))
+                       (unless elt
+                         (error "Option `%s' is ambiguous" argi))
+                       (setq argi (substring (car elt) 1))))
+                    (t
+                     (setq argval nil
+                           argi orig-argi)))))
+          (cond
+           ;; The --display arg is handled partly in C, partly in Lisp.
+           ;; When it shows up here, we just put it back to be handled
+           ;; by `command-line-1'.
+           ((member argi '("-d" "-display"))
+            (setq display-arg (list argi (pop args))))
+           ((member argi '("-Q" "-quick"))
+            (setq init-file-user nil
+                  site-run-file nil
+                  inhibit-x-resources t))
+           ((member argi '("-no-x-resources"))
+            (setq inhibit-x-resources t))
+           ((member argi '("-D" "-basic-display"))
+            (setq no-blinking-cursor t
+                  emacs-basic-display t)
+            (push '(vertical-scroll-bars . nil) initial-frame-alist))
+           ((member argi '("-q" "-no-init-file"))
+            (setq init-file-user nil))
+           ((member argi '("-u" "-user"))
+            (setq init-file-user (or argval (pop args))
+                  argval nil))
+           ((equal argi "-no-site-file")
+            (setq site-run-file nil))
+           ((equal argi "-debug-init")
+            (setq init-file-debug t))
+           ((equal argi "-iconic")
+            (push '(visibility . icon) initial-frame-alist))
+           ((member argi '("-nbc" "-no-blinking-cursor"))
+            (setq no-blinking-cursor t))
+           ;; Push the popped arg back on the list of arguments.
+           (t
+            (push argi args)
+            (setq done t)))
+          ;; Was argval set but not used?
+          (and argval
+               (error "Option `%s' doesn't allow an argument" argi))))
+
+      ;; Re-attach the --display arg.
+      (and display-arg (setq args (append display-arg args)))
+
+      ;; Re-attach the program name to the front of the arg list.
+      (and command-line-args
+           (setcdr command-line-args args)))
+
+    ;; Make sure window system's init file was loaded in loadup.el if
+    ;; using a window system.
+    ;; Initialize the window-system only after processing the command-line
+    ;; args so that -Q can influence this initialization.
+    (condition-case error
+        (unless noninteractive
+          (if (and initial-window-system
+                   (not (featurep
+                         (intern
+                          (concat (symbol-name initial-window-system) "-win")))))
+              (error "Unsupported window system `%s'" initial-window-system))
+          ;; Process window-system specific command line parameters.
+          (setq command-line-args
+                (funcall
+                 (gui-method handle-args-function initial-window-system)
+                 command-line-args))
+          ;; Initialize the window system. (Open connection, etc.)
+          (funcall
+           (gui-method window-system-initialization initial-window-system))
+          (put initial-window-system 'window-system-initialized t))
+      ;; If there was an error, print the error message and exit.
+      (error
+       (princ
+        (if (eq (car error) 'error)
+            (apply 'concat (cdr error))
+          (if (memq 'file-error (get (car error) 'error-conditions))
+              (format "%s: %s"
+                      (nth 1 error)
+                      (mapconcat (lambda (obj) (prin1-to-string obj t))
+                                 (cdr (cdr error)) ", "))
+            (format "%s: %s"
+                    (get (car error) 'error-message)
                     (mapconcat (lambda (obj) (prin1-to-string obj t))
-                               (cdr (cdr error)) ", "))
-	  (format "%s: %s"
-                  (get (car error) 'error-message)
-                  (mapconcat (lambda (obj) (prin1-to-string obj t))
-                             (cdr error) ", "))))
-      'external-debugging-output)
-     (terpri 'external-debugging-output)
-     (setq initial-window-system nil)
-     (kill-emacs)))
-
-  (run-hooks 'before-init-hook)
-
-  ;; Under X, create the X frame and delete the terminal frame.
-  (unless (daemonp)
-    (if (or noninteractive emacs-basic-display)
-	(setq menu-bar-mode nil
-	      tool-bar-mode nil
-	      no-blinking-cursor t))
-    (frame-initialize))
-
-  (when (fboundp 'x-create-frame)
-    ;; Set up the tool-bar (even in tty frames, since Emacs might open a
-    ;; graphical frame later).
-    (unless noninteractive
-      (tool-bar-setup)))
-
-  ;; Turn off blinking cursor if so specified in X resources.  This is here
-  ;; only because all other settings of no-blinking-cursor are here.
-  (unless (or noninteractive
-	      emacs-basic-display
-	      (and (memq window-system '(x w32 ns))
-		   (not (member (x-get-resource "cursorBlink" "CursorBlink")
-				'("no" "off" "false" "0")))))
-    (setq no-blinking-cursor t))
-
-  ;; Re-evaluate predefined variables whose initial value depends on
-  ;; the runtime context.
-  (mapc 'custom-reevaluate-setting
-        ;; Initialize them in the same order they were loaded, in case there
-        ;; are dependencies between them.
-        (prog1 (nreverse custom-delayed-init-variables)
-          (setq custom-delayed-init-variables nil)))
-
-  (normal-erase-is-backspace-setup-frame)
-
-  ;; Register default TTY colors for the case the terminal hasn't a
-  ;; terminal init file.  We do this regardless of whether the terminal
-  ;; supports colors or not and regardless the current display type,
-  ;; since users can connect to color-capable terminals and also
-  ;; switch color support on or off in mid-session by setting the
-  ;; tty-color-mode frame parameter.
-  ;; Exception: the `pc' ``window system'' has only 16 fixed colors,
-  ;; and they are already set at this point by a suitable function in
-  ;; window-system-initialization-alist.
-  (or (eq initial-window-system 'pc)
-      (tty-register-default-colors))
-
-  (let ((old-scalable-fonts-allowed scalable-fonts-allowed)
-	(old-face-ignored-fonts face-ignored-fonts))
-
-    ;; Run the site-start library if it exists.  The point of this file is
-    ;; that it is run before .emacs.  There is no point in doing this after
-    ;; .emacs; that is useless.
-    ;; Note that user-init-file is nil at this point.  Code that might
-    ;; be loaded from site-run-file and wants to test if -q was given
-    ;; should check init-file-user instead, since that is already set.
-    ;; See cus-edit.el for an example.
-    (if site-run-file
-	(load site-run-file t t))
-
-    ;; Sites should not disable this.  Only individuals should disable
-    ;; the startup screen.
-    (setq inhibit-startup-screen nil)
-
-    ;; Warn for invalid user name.
-    (when init-file-user
-      (if (string-match "[~/:\n]" init-file-user)
-	  (display-warning 'initialization
-			   (format "Invalid user name %s"
-				   init-file-user)
-			   :error)
-	(if (file-directory-p (expand-file-name
-			       ;; We don't support ~USER on MS-Windows
-			       ;; and MS-DOS except for the current
-			       ;; user, and always load .emacs from
-			       ;; the current user's home directory
-			       ;; (see below).  So always check "~",
-			       ;; even if invoked with "-u USER", or
-			       ;; if $USER or $LOGNAME are set to
-			       ;; something different.
-			       (if (memq system-type '(windows-nt ms-dos))
-				   "~"
-				 (concat "~" init-file-user))))
-	    nil
-	  (display-warning 'initialization
-			   (format "User %s has no home directory"
-				   (if (equal init-file-user "")
-				       (user-real-login-name)
-				     init-file-user))
-			   :error))))
-
-    ;; Load that user's init file, or the default one, or none.
-    (let (debug-on-error-from-init-file
-	  debug-on-error-should-be-set
-	  (debug-on-error-initial
-	   (if (eq init-file-debug t) 'startup init-file-debug))
-	  (orig-enable-multibyte (default-value 'enable-multibyte-characters)))
-      (let ((debug-on-error debug-on-error-initial)
-	    ;; This function actually reads the init files.
-	    (inner
-	     (function
-	      (lambda ()
-		(if init-file-user
-		    (let ((user-init-file-1
-			   (cond
-			     ((eq system-type 'ms-dos)
-			      (concat "~" init-file-user "/_emacs"))
-			     ((not (eq system-type 'windows-nt))
-			      (concat "~" init-file-user "/.emacs"))
-			     ;; Else deal with the Windows situation
-			     ((directory-files "~" nil "^\\.emacs\\(\\.elc?\\)?$")
-			      ;; Prefer .emacs on Windows.
-			      "~/.emacs")
-			     ((directory-files "~" nil "^_emacs\\(\\.elc?\\)?$")
-			      ;; Also support _emacs for compatibility, but warn about it.
-			      (push '(initialization
-				      "`_emacs' init file is deprecated, please use `.emacs'")
-				    delayed-warnings-list)
-			      "~/_emacs")
-			     (t ;; But default to .emacs if _emacs does not exist.
-			      "~/.emacs"))))
-		      ;; This tells `load' to store the file name found
-		      ;; into user-init-file.
-		      (setq user-init-file t)
-		      (load user-init-file-1 t t)
-
-		      (when (eq user-init-file t)
-			;; If we did not find ~/.emacs, try
-			;; ~/.emacs.d/init.el.
-			(let ((otherfile
-			       (expand-file-name
-				"init"
-				(file-name-as-directory
-				 (concat "~" init-file-user "/.emacs.d")))))
-			  (load otherfile t t)
-
-			  ;; If we did not find the user's init file,
-			  ;; set user-init-file conclusively.
-			  ;; Don't let it be set from default.el.
-			  (when (eq user-init-file t)
-			    (setq user-init-file user-init-file-1))))
-
-		      ;; If we loaded a compiled file, set
-		      ;; `user-init-file' to the source version if that
-		      ;; exists.
-		      (when (and user-init-file
-				 (equal (file-name-extension user-init-file)
-					"elc"))
-			(let* ((source (file-name-sans-extension user-init-file))
-			       (alt (concat source ".el")))
-			  (setq source (cond ((file-exists-p alt) alt)
-					     ((file-exists-p source) source)
-					     (t nil)))
-			  (when source
-			    (when (file-newer-than-file-p source user-init-file)
-			      (message "Warning: %s is newer than %s"
-				       source user-init-file)
-			      (sit-for 1))
-			    (setq user-init-file source))))
-
-		      (unless inhibit-default-init
-                        (let ((inhibit-startup-screen nil))
-                          ;; Users are supposed to be told their rights.
-                          ;; (Plus how to get help and how to undo.)
-                          ;; Don't you dare turn this off for anyone
-                          ;; except yourself.
-                          (load "default" t t)))))))))
-	(if init-file-debug
-	    ;; Do this without a condition-case if the user wants to debug.
-	    (funcall inner)
-	  (condition-case error
-	      (progn
-		(funcall inner)
-		(setq init-file-had-error nil))
-	    (error
-	     ;; Postpone displaying the warning until all hooks
-	     ;; in `after-init-hook' like `desktop-read' will finalize
-	     ;; possible changes in the window configuration.
-	     (add-hook
-	      'after-init-hook
-	      (lambda ()
-		(display-warning
-		 'initialization
-		 (format "An error occurred while loading `%s':\n\n%s%s%s\n\n\
+                               (cdr error) ", "))))
+        'external-debugging-output)
+       (terpri 'external-debugging-output)
+       (setq initial-window-system nil)
+       (kill-emacs)))
+
+    (run-hooks 'before-init-hook)
+
+    ;; Under X, create the X frame and delete the terminal frame.
+    (unless (daemonp)
+      (if (or noninteractive emacs-basic-display)
+          (setq menu-bar-mode nil
+                tool-bar-mode nil
+                no-blinking-cursor t))
+      (frame-initialize))
+
+    (when (fboundp 'x-create-frame)
+      ;; Set up the tool-bar (even in tty frames, since Emacs might open a
+      ;; graphical frame later).
+      (unless noninteractive
+        (tool-bar-setup)))
+
+    ;; Turn off blinking cursor if so specified in X resources.  This is here
+    ;; only because all other settings of no-blinking-cursor are here.
+    (unless (or noninteractive
+                emacs-basic-display
+                (and (memq window-system '(x w32 ns))
+                     (not (member (x-get-resource "cursorBlink" "CursorBlink")
+                                  '("no" "off" "false" "0")))))
+      (setq no-blinking-cursor t))
+
+    ;; Re-evaluate predefined variables whose initial value depends on
+    ;; the runtime context.
+    (mapc 'custom-reevaluate-setting
+          ;; Initialize them in the same order they were loaded, in case there
+          ;; are dependencies between them.
+          (prog1 (nreverse custom-delayed-init-variables)
+            (setq custom-delayed-init-variables nil)))
+
+    (normal-erase-is-backspace-setup-frame)
+
+    ;; Register default TTY colors for the case the terminal hasn't a
+    ;; terminal init file.  We do this regardless of whether the terminal
+    ;; supports colors or not and regardless the current display type,
+    ;; since users can connect to color-capable terminals and also
+    ;; switch color support on or off in mid-session by setting the
+    ;; tty-color-mode frame parameter.
+    ;; Exception: the `pc' ``window system'' has only 16 fixed colors,
+    ;; and they are already set at this point by a suitable function in
+    ;; window-system-initialization-alist.
+    (or (eq initial-window-system 'pc)
+        (tty-register-default-colors))
+
+    (let ((old-scalable-fonts-allowed scalable-fonts-allowed)
+          (old-face-ignored-fonts face-ignored-fonts))
+
+      ;; Run the site-start library if it exists.  The point of this file is
+      ;; that it is run before .emacs.  There is no point in doing this after
+      ;; .emacs; that is useless.
+      ;; Note that user-init-file is nil at this point.  Code that might
+      ;; be loaded from site-run-file and wants to test if -q was given
+      ;; should check init-file-user instead, since that is already set.
+      ;; See cus-edit.el for an example.
+      (if site-run-file
+          (load site-run-file t t))
+
+      ;; Sites should not disable this.  Only individuals should disable
+      ;; the startup screen.
+      (setq inhibit-startup-screen nil)
+
+      ;; Warn for invalid user name.
+      (when init-file-user
+        (if (string-match "[~/:\n]" init-file-user)
+            (display-warning 'initialization
+                             (format "Invalid user name %s"
+                                     init-file-user)
+                             :error)
+          (if (file-directory-p (expand-file-name
+                                 ;; We don't support ~USER on MS-Windows
+                                 ;; and MS-DOS except for the current
+                                 ;; user, and always load .emacs from
+                                 ;; the current user's home directory
+                                 ;; (see below).  So always check "~",
+                                 ;; even if invoked with "-u USER", or
+                                 ;; if $USER or $LOGNAME are set to
+                                 ;; something different.
+                                 (if (memq system-type '(windows-nt ms-dos))
+                                     "~"
+                                   (concat "~" init-file-user))))
+              nil
+            (display-warning 'initialization
+                             (format "User %s has no home directory"
+                                     (if (equal init-file-user "")
+                                         (user-real-login-name)
+                                       init-file-user))
+                             :error))))
+
+      ;; Load that user's init file, or the default one, or none.
+      (let (debug-on-error-from-init-file
+            debug-on-error-should-be-set
+            (debug-on-error-initial
+             (if (eq init-file-debug t) 'startup init-file-debug))
+            (orig-enable-multibyte (default-value 'enable-multibyte-characters)))
+        (let ((debug-on-error debug-on-error-initial)
+              ;; This function actually reads the init files.
+              (inner
+               (function
+                (lambda ()
+                  (if init-file-user
+                      (let ((user-init-file-1
+                             (cond
+                              ((eq system-type 'ms-dos)
+                               (concat "~" init-file-user "/_emacs"))
+                              ((not (eq system-type 'windows-nt))
+                               (concat "~" init-file-user "/.emacs"))
+                              ;; Else deal with the Windows situation
+                              ((directory-files "~" nil "^\\.emacs\\(\\.elc?\\)?$")
+                               ;; Prefer .emacs on Windows.
+                               "~/.emacs")
+                              ((directory-files "~" nil "^_emacs\\(\\.elc?\\)?$")
+                               ;; Also support _emacs for compatibility, but warn about it.
+                               (push '(initialization
+                                       "`_emacs' init file is deprecated, please use `.emacs'")
+                                     delayed-warnings-list)
+                               "~/_emacs")
+                              (t ;; But default to .emacs if _emacs does not exist.
+                               "~/.emacs"))))
+                        ;; This tells `load' to store the file name found
+                        ;; into user-init-file.
+                        (setq user-init-file t)
+
+                        ;; Don't load `~/.emacs' if EMACS_USER_DIRECTORY was set
+                        (unless user-emacs-directory--from-env
+                          (load user-init-file-1 t t))
+
+                        (when (eq user-init-file t)
+                          ;; If we did not find ~/.emacs, try
+                          ;; ~/.emacs.d/init.el.
+                          (let ((otherfile
+                                 (expand-file-name
+                                  "init"
+                                  (file-name-as-directory
+                                   (if user-emacs-directory--from-env
+                                       user-emacs-directory
+                                     (concat "~" init-file-user "/.emacs.d"))))))
+                            (load otherfile t t)
+
+                            ;; If we did not find the user's init file,
+                            ;; set user-init-file conclusively.
+                            ;; Don't let it be set from default.el.
+                            (when (eq user-init-file t)
+                              (setq user-init-file user-init-file-1))))
+
+                        ;; If we loaded a compiled file, set
+                        ;; `user-init-file' to the source version if that
+                        ;; exists.
+                        (when (and user-init-file
+                                   (equal (file-name-extension user-init-file)
+                                          "elc"))
+                          (let* ((source (file-name-sans-extension user-init-file))
+                                 (alt (concat source ".el")))
+                            (setq source (cond ((file-exists-p alt) alt)
+                                               ((file-exists-p source) source)
+                                               (t nil)))
+                            (when source
+                              (when (file-newer-than-file-p source user-init-file)
+                                (message "Warning: %s is newer than %s"
+                                         source user-init-file)
+                                (sit-for 1))
+                              (setq user-init-file source))))
+
+                        (unless inhibit-default-init
+                          (let ((inhibit-startup-screen nil))
+                            ;; Users are supposed to be told their rights.
+                            ;; (Plus how to get help and how to undo.)
+                            ;; Don't you dare turn this off for anyone
+                            ;; except yourself.
+                            (load "default" t t)))))))))
+          (if init-file-debug
+              ;; Do this without a condition-case if the user wants to debug.
+              (funcall inner)
+            (condition-case error
+                (progn
+                  (funcall inner)
+                  (setq init-file-had-error nil))
+              (error
+               ;; Postpone displaying the warning until all hooks
+               ;; in `after-init-hook' like `desktop-read' will finalize
+               ;; possible changes in the window configuration.
+               (add-hook
+                'after-init-hook
+                (lambda ()
+                  (display-warning
+                   'initialization
+                   (format "An error occurred while loading `%s':\n\n%s%s%s\n\n\
 To ensure normal operation, you should investigate and remove the
 cause of the error in your initialization file.  Start Emacs with
 the `--debug-init' option to view a complete error backtrace."
-			 user-init-file
-			 (get (car error) 'error-message)
-			 (if (cdr error) ": " "")
-			 (mapconcat (lambda (s) (prin1-to-string s t))
-				    (cdr error) ", "))
-		 :warning))
-	      t)
-	     (setq init-file-had-error t))))
-
-      (if (and deactivate-mark transient-mark-mode)
-	    (with-current-buffer (window-buffer)
-	      (deactivate-mark)))
-
-	;; If the user has a file of abbrevs, read it (unless -batch).
-	(when (and (not noninteractive)
-		   (file-exists-p abbrev-file-name)
-		   (file-readable-p abbrev-file-name))
-	    (quietly-read-abbrev-file abbrev-file-name))
-
-	;; If the abbrevs came entirely from the init file or the
-	;; abbrevs file, they do not need saving.
-	(setq abbrevs-changed nil)
-
-	;; If we can tell that the init file altered debug-on-error,
-	;; arrange to preserve the value that it set up.
-	(or (eq debug-on-error debug-on-error-initial)
-	    (setq debug-on-error-should-be-set t
-		  debug-on-error-from-init-file debug-on-error)))
-      (if debug-on-error-should-be-set
-	  (setq debug-on-error debug-on-error-from-init-file))
-      (unless (or (default-value 'enable-multibyte-characters)
-		  (eq orig-enable-multibyte (default-value
-					      'enable-multibyte-characters)))
-	;; Init file changed to unibyte.  Reset existing multibyte
-	;; buffers (probably *scratch*, *Messages*, *Minibuf-0*).
-	;; Arguably this should only be done if they're free of
-	;; multibyte characters.
-	(mapc (lambda (buffer)
-		(with-current-buffer buffer
-		  (if enable-multibyte-characters
-		      (set-buffer-multibyte nil))))
-	      (buffer-list))
-	;; Also re-set the language environment in case it was
-	;; originally done before unibyte was set and is sensitive to
-	;; unibyte (display table, terminal coding system &c).
-	(set-language-environment current-language-environment)))
-
-    ;; Do this here in case the init file sets mail-host-address.
-    (if (equal user-mail-address "")
-	(setq user-mail-address (or (getenv "EMAIL")
-				    (concat (user-login-name) "@"
-					    (or mail-host-address
-						(system-name))))))
-
-    ;; If parameter have been changed in the init file which influence
-    ;; face realization, clear the face cache so that new faces will
-    ;; be realized.
-    (unless (and (eq scalable-fonts-allowed old-scalable-fonts-allowed)
-		 (eq face-ignored-fonts old-face-ignored-fonts))
-      (clear-face-cache)))
+                           user-init-file
+                           (get (car error) 'error-message)
+                           (if (cdr error) ": " "")
+                           (mapconcat (lambda (s) (prin1-to-string s t))
+                                      (cdr error) ", "))
+                   :warning))
+                t)
+               (setq init-file-had-error t))))
+
+          (if (and deactivate-mark transient-mark-mode)
+              (with-current-buffer (window-buffer)
+                (deactivate-mark)))
+
+          ;; If the user has a file of abbrevs, read it (unless -batch).
+          (when (and (not noninteractive)
+                     (file-exists-p abbrev-file-name)
+                     (file-readable-p abbrev-file-name))
+            (quietly-read-abbrev-file abbrev-file-name))
+
+          ;; If the abbrevs came entirely from the init file or the
+          ;; abbrevs file, they do not need saving.
+          (setq abbrevs-changed nil)
+
+          ;; If we can tell that the init file altered debug-on-error,
+          ;; arrange to preserve the value that it set up.
+          (or (eq debug-on-error debug-on-error-initial)
+              (setq debug-on-error-should-be-set t
+                    debug-on-error-from-init-file debug-on-error)))
+        (if debug-on-error-should-be-set
+            (setq debug-on-error debug-on-error-from-init-file))
+        (unless (or (default-value 'enable-multibyte-characters)
+                    (eq orig-enable-multibyte (default-value
+                                                'enable-multibyte-characters)))
+          ;; Init file changed to unibyte.  Reset existing multibyte
+          ;; buffers (probably *scratch*, *Messages*, *Minibuf-0*).
+          ;; Arguably this should only be done if they're free of
+          ;; multibyte characters.
+          (mapc (lambda (buffer)
+                  (with-current-buffer buffer
+                    (if enable-multibyte-characters
+                        (set-buffer-multibyte nil))))
+                (buffer-list))
+          ;; Also re-set the language environment in case it was
+          ;; originally done before unibyte was set and is sensitive to
+          ;; unibyte (display table, terminal coding system &c).
+          (set-language-environment current-language-environment)))
+
+      ;; Do this here in case the init file sets mail-host-address.
+      (if (equal user-mail-address "")
+          (setq user-mail-address (or (getenv "EMAIL")
+                                      (concat (user-login-name) "@"
+                                              (or mail-host-address
+                                                  (system-name))))))
+
+      ;; If parameter have been changed in the init file which influence
+      ;; face realization, clear the face cache so that new faces will
+      ;; be realized.
+      (unless (and (eq scalable-fonts-allowed old-scalable-fonts-allowed)
+                   (eq face-ignored-fonts old-face-ignored-fonts))
+        (clear-face-cache))))
 
   ;; If any package directory exists, initialize the package system.
   (and user-init-file
-- 
1.7.2.5

bug#583: Use XDG basedir spec for configuration files?

[Fernando]

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The XDG Base Directory
Specification<http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/>provides
some common paths in user's home to store personal application
configurations, or, using their own words "*defines where these files should
be looked for by defining one or more base directories relative to which
files should be located*".

XDG Base Directory Specification allows efficient backup, in which you can
easily choose to backup your data and/or your configuration files for
instance. An application could easily propose such backup for the whole
system if all applications were matching these specification.

Therefore, although I think that this bug/enhancement is not vital, it would
be great for Emacs to be "FreeDesktop XDG Base Directory Specification"
compliant.

Currently Emacs is using "$HOME/.emacs.d/". This is what XDG basedir spec
defines:

   - $XDG_DATA_HOME (usually $HOME/.local/share/) as "*the base directory
   relative to which user specific data files should be stored*"
   - $XDG_CONFIG_HOME (usually $HOME/.config/) as "*the base directory
   relative to which user specific configuration files should be stored*"
   - $XDG_CACHE_HOME (usually $HOME/.cache/) as "*the base directory
   relative to which user specific non-essential data files should be stored
   *"

(http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html)

In order to make Emacs XDG basedir compliant, I think that it would be nice
to use:

   - $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/emacs  ;;for "init.el" and storing customize
   configuration


   - $XDG_DATA_HOME/emacs  ;;for sessions and backups


   - $XDG_CACHE_HOME/emacs  ;;for cache files

Or maybe some other distribution. What do you think about it?

There's a small C library that may be useful check it out, written for the
sole purpose of xdg basedir spec compliance:
https://n.ethz.ch/student/nevillm/download/libxdg-basedir/

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bug#583: Use XDG basedir spec for configuration files?

[Paul Eggert]

After discussion we added something along the suggested lines to Emacs master here:

https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=4118297ae2fab4886b20d193ba511a229637aea3

so I am closing bug report number 583.

bug#583: Use XDG basedir spec for configuration files?

[Glenn Morris]

It's great to finally see some progress in this area, but IIUC this is
still not really following the XDG spec. For example, I think a proper
solution would see user elpa packages stored undo XDG_DATA_HOME, etc.
I think the OP points this out.
It looks like what we have at the moment is basically
~/.emacs.d/ -> ~/.config/emacs/?

bug#583: Use XDG basedir spec for configuration files?

[Paul Eggert]

Glenn Morris wrote:
> It's great to finally see some progress in this area, but IIUC this is
> still not really following the XDG spec. For example, I think a proper
> solution would see user elpa packages stored undo XDG_DATA_HOME, etc.
> I think the OP points this out.
> It looks like what we have at the moment is basically
> ~/.emacs.d/ -> ~/.config/emacs/?

Yes, that's what Emacs basically has in master now. I don't see where Fernando 
mentioned ELPA, though. And it's not clear that an ELPA package's files should 
be considered "user specific data files" (XDG_DATA_HOME) as opposed to "user 
specific configuration files" (XDG_CONFIG_HOME).

Looking at my own home directory for what other XDG-ish programs do, I see data 
files under ~/.local/share (XDG_DATA_FILES default): things like 
xorg/Xorg.0.log, gnome-shell/application_state, gvfs-metadata/home, and 
evolution/addressbook/system/contacts.db. Programs (if any) are few and far 
between. (Not that I use many plugins in any programs, so perhaps I'm not the 
best person to check this.)

For what it's worth, I found an old directory named '~/.gimp-2.8' and a newer 
one named '~/.config/GIMP/2.10' with similar structure. It appears that when 
GIMP made the transition to XDG style in GIMP version 2.9.2, it did what Emacs 
just did in master now: that is, GIMP moved all its stuff into ~/config/GIMP. 
Although I don't use GIMP plug-ins, the GIMP plug-ins directory moved too.

bug#583: Use XDG basedir spec for configuration files?

[Glenn Morris]

Paul Eggert wrote:

>> ~/.emacs.d/ -> ~/.config/emacs/?
>
> Yes, that's what Emacs basically has in master now. I don't see where
> Fernando mentioned ELPA, though.

He didn't. Elpa may not even have existed when this report was opened.
I was using it as an example.

> And it's not clear that an ELPA package's files should be considered
> "user specific data files" (XDG_DATA_HOME) as opposed to "user
> specific configuration files" (XDG_CONFIG_HOME).

It seems clear to me. They are data, not configuration. You would not
install them under /etc, but somewhere like /usr/share.

> For what it's worth, I found an old directory named '~/.gimp-2.8' and
> a newer one named '~/.config/GIMP/2.10' with similar structure. It
> appears that when GIMP made the transition to XDG style in GIMP
> version 2.9.2, it did what Emacs just did in master now: that is, GIMP
> moved all its stuff into ~/config/GIMP. Although I don't use GIMP
> plug-ins, the GIMP plug-ins directory moved too.

IMO "dump everything under ~/.config/emacs" isn't a proper
implementation, even if some other packages have done this.

bug#583: Use XDG basedir spec for configuration files?

[Paul Eggert]

Glenn Morris wrote:
>> And it's not clear that an ELPA package's files should be considered
>> "user specific data files" (XDG_DATA_HOME) as opposed to "user
>> specific configuration files" (XDG_CONFIG_HOME).

> It seems clear to me. They are data, not configuration. You would not
> install them under /etc, but somewhere like /usr/share.

If I understand correctly, ELPA packages are not really either "data" or 
"configuration": they're software packages. And the XDG scheme doesn't appear to 
be designed for installing software packages: it's designed only for user 
preferences (aka configuration), user data, and information cached for the user.

If ELPA packages are just local copies from a server somewhere, it seems the 
most plausible place for them is the XDG cache (XDG_CACHE_HOME, which is 
~/.cache by default) rather than either in "data" or "configuration"; only the 
list of downloaded packages should be placed in XDG_CONFIG_HOME. Presumably the 
ELPA package manager could arrange for this.

Not being an expert in these matters, I looked at another popular packaging 
scheme: Flatpak. It appears to put everything under ~/.local/share, i.e., under 
XDG_DATA_HOME. This includes configuration. See 
<https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/wiki/Filesystem>.

It's quite a mess, huh?

bug#583: Use XDG basedir spec for configuration files?

[Glenn Morris]

BTW, I think the handling of user-emacs-directory is buggy:

rm -rf /tmp/foo
mkdir -p /tmp/foo/.config/emacs
HOME=/tmp/foo emacs

Now:
user-init-file         -> /tmp/foo/.config/emacs/init
user-emacs-directory   -> ~/.emacs.d/

I guess user-emacs-directory is being set at build time, not run time.

bug#583: Use XDG basedir spec for configuration files?

[Paul Eggert]

Glenn Morris wrote:
> BTW, I think the handling of user-emacs-directory is buggy:

Yes, it is. I'll have to take a look at that. I guess we'll have to change 
user-home-directory to a variable, since we can't easily determine it until 
command-line runs.

Also, a good many places in the documentaiton refer to ~/.emacs.d and these need 
to be updated.

bug#583: Use XDG basedir spec for configuration files?

[Glenn Morris]

Paul Eggert wrote:

>> BTW, I think the handling of user-emacs-directory is buggy:
>
> Yes, it is. I'll have to take a look at that. I guess we'll have to
> change user-home-directory to a variable, since we can't easily
> determine it until command-line runs.
>
> Also, a good many places in the documentaiton refer to ~/.emacs.d and
> these need to be updated.

IMO this means one should allow a user-defined user-emacs-directory,
which means un-wontfix'ing https://debbugs.gnu.org/15539 .
Maybe the patch in https://debbugs.gnu.org/15539#40 contains some useful ideas.
Although in hindsight an environment variable doesn't seem like the way
to go.

bug#15539: [PATCH] Setting user-emacs-directory

[Paul Eggert]

Glenn Morris mentioned Bug#15539's user-emacs-directory issue here:

https://bugs.gnu.org/583#68

... so this email is giving you a heads-up that I recently installed a patch 
into GNU Emacs master that should allow something approximating Bug#15539's 
requested behavior. For example, one can run Emacs like this:

XDG_CONFIG_HOME=/home/rms/.config emacs

to employ user rms's Emacs configuration, instead of your configuration.

The patch I installed did not do anything special to fix bug#15539, as the new 
Emacs behavior is a natural fallout of supporting the XDG spec's requirements 
for XDG_CONFIG_HOME.

This all assumes people are using the XDG-conforming locations for config files, 
which I hope is good enough since older Emacs obviously wasn't meeting the 
Bug#15539 need anyway.

bug#15539: [PATCH] Setting user-emacs-directory

[Glenn Morris]

Paul Eggert wrote:

> ... so this email is giving you a heads-up that I recently installed a
> patch into GNU Emacs master that should allow something approximating
> Bug#15539's requested behavior. For example, one can run Emacs like
> this:
>
> XDG_CONFIG_HOME=/home/rms/.config emacs
>
> to employ user rms's Emacs configuration, instead of your configuration.

This is an improvement, but it is not a proper solution to #15539, for
some of the same reasons that "just change HOME" wasn't. XDG_CONFIG_HOME
is not an Emacs-specific variable, so changing it will impact other
things that may be called from within Emacs.

bug#15539: [PATCH] Setting user-emacs-directory

[Paul Eggert]

Glenn Morris wrote:
> XDG_CONFIG_HOME
> is not an Emacs-specific variable, so changing it will impact other
> things that may be called from within Emacs.

True, but it should suffice for many use cases mentioned in Bug#15539. Of the 
cases mentioned here:

https://bugs.gnu.org/15539#66

XDG_HOME should suffice for most of issues mentioned. Not all: for example, 
overriding XDG_CONFIG_HOME overrides Gtk configuration, font configuration, and 
other settings covered by the XDG convention, whereas one might want to override 
just ~/.config/emacs. But it strikes me that this is often just as much of a 
feature as a drawback, since Gtk etc. configurations influence Emacs so much 
that they really ought to be saved/restored when one is thinking of 
saving/restoring Emacs settings.

One might have a situation where one wants to vary (or save) files traditionally 
kept in ~/.emacs.d/, and no other files. But it's also quite plausible that one 
will want some of those files and not others, just as one might want 
~/.config/emacs and ~/.config/fontconfig but not ~/.config/gtk-3.0. And it's 
unlikely that a single option will have all the fine-grained control that one 
would need for all these situations. Instead, it's probably better just to 
suggest to people that they set up $HOME (or perhaps $XDG_CONFIG_HOME) to point 
to a directory full of configurations that are just they way they like it.

bug#15539: [PATCH] Setting user-emacs-directory

[Mike Carifio]

As the OP approximately six years ago, I neglected to add the "use-case" 
I wanted --user-emacs-directory for, namely to experiment with 
~/.emacs.d/init.el including installing new packages via elpa. I still 
think there's a need, especially as the number of useful packages have 
grown and they can interact. I currently use the "symlink" approach when 
I want to start adding new packages and configurations. It's useful to 
return to a "known good state" if my init.el hacking careens off the 
tracks. Since there was already a _variable_ user-emacs-directory, I 
thought I was just asking to set it early at the command line. It seemed 
to be analogous to --load for an emacs file or --user for another user's 
init file. I didn't realize it had a "read-only" flavor.

Yes, this switch adds another knob, but I happen to think its a useful 
knob and is consistent with --load and --user, both of which allow the 
user to designate a different init file at the command line. Redefining 
HOME at the command line and then "setting it back" inside init.el seems 
convoluted. It could also potentially break site-start.el if some code 
there relied on the right binding of HOME. Admittedly that's a 
farfetched scenario, but not impossible either. Sure would be confusing 
to debug if you didn't know what to look for. All the "do it yourself" 
strategies (other than symlink) also force the user to deeply understand 
the details of the init process, e.g. what switches to throw to override 
various features. So if the criticism is "yet another knob" I would say 
you are pushing people to construct homegrown solutions ... repeatedly.

The XDG patch will let emacs adhere to the XDG desktop conventions and 
you can designate the user-emacs-directory implicitly as well, a 
two-for-one special. Not every platform follows the XDG conventions, but 
I personally mostly use linux, so I'm less concerned with those.

bug#15539: [PATCH] Setting user-emacs-directory

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> writes:

> One might have a situation where one wants to vary (or save) files
> traditionally kept in ~/.emacs.d/, and no other files. But it's also
> quite plausible that one will want some of those files and not others,
> just as one might want ~/.config/emacs and ~/.config/fontconfig but
> not ~/.config/gtk-3.0. And it's unlikely that a single option will
> have all the fine-grained control that one would need for all these
> situations. Instead, it's probably better just to suggest to people
> that they set up $HOME (or perhaps $XDG_CONFIG_HOME) to point to a
> directory full of configurations that are just they way they like it.

So I think the conclusion to this long thread was that we don't want to
add a specific switch for this, and instead people can say
"XDG_CONFIG_HOME=/whatever emacs" when they want to change these paths.
So I'm closing this bug report.

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