From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23144: shrinking windows with gtk 3.20 Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 18:53:44 +0300 Message-ID: <83bn465793.fsf@gnu.org> References: <57396E53.3050407@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1463414912 26952 80.91.229.3 (16 May 2016 16:08:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 16:08:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 23144@debbugs.gnu.org, matthias.clasen@gmail.com To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 16 18:08:17 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1b2L3x-0002YV-E6 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 May 2016 18:08:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44709 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b2L3w-00008C-Iy for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 May 2016 12:08:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34441) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b2KwC-0006Sw-NA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 May 2016 12:00:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b2Kw7-0003Fd-5n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 May 2016 12:00:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:41615) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b2Kw6-0003FV-UM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 May 2016 12:00:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b2Kw6-0001fE-O1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 May 2016 12:00:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 16:00:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23144 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23144-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23144.14634143576311 (code B ref 23144); Mon, 16 May 2016 16:00:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23144) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 May 2016 15:59:17 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53952 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b2KvJ-0001dg-HO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 May 2016 11:59:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43120) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b2KvH-0001dR-RL for 23144@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 May 2016 11:59:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b2KvB-0002zp-IN for 23144@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 May 2016 11:59:06 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59161) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b2KqA-0001vL-U8; Mon, 16 May 2016 11:53:54 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2309 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1b2Kq2-00014h-8v; Mon, 16 May 2016 11:53:53 -0400 In-reply-to: <57396E53.3050407@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Sun, 15 May 2016 23:53:07 -0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:118288 Archived-At: > From: Paul Eggert > Cc: Matthias Clasen , Eli Zaretskii > , rudalics@gmx.at > Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 23:53:07 -0700 > > As I understand it, the current version (3.20.4) of Gtk+ incorporates the > cleanup patch > > that causes the problem with Emacs 25 that Matthias noted in > . I haven't tested this, though. > > As the bug was fixed in the Emacs master branch early last month > , > and nobody has seemed to complain, I'm becoming more inclined to cherry-pick the > fix into the emacs-25 branch. Or we could reject GTK+ 3.20.4 and later for Emacs 25.1 at configure time. I have no idea which alternative is better. (And no, lack of complaints doesn't seem to be a good enough indicator: look at the number of serious problems with emacs-25 which are only now starting to be reported. It sounds like only pretest releases are used widely enough to catch some configurations.) > I'm by no means an expert in this area, but it does seem to be a > looming problem if we continue to do nothing. We don't have experts available, it seems. We have no idea what we are doing with these changes. I hoped the GTK people will be motivated enough to help us out, but it doesn't look like it's happening, sigh.