From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21391: 24.5; `thing-at-point' should return a string Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2016 12:57:11 +0200 Message-ID: <83bmxme12w.fsf@gnu.org> References: <0a68c2ae-0940-4e2c-8b3c-1faceb45c43c@default> <1773ab35-70b1-42f9-8a8b-fe07881487d1@default> <874m3krnb6.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <83a8dbiaps.fsf@gnu.org> <83pom7gjhl.fsf@gnu.org> <0a8d76e4-4d1b-a26d-2b76-a2d9384d9f72@yandex.ru> <83mvhbgitf.fsf@gnu.org> <25bb22e8-1388-275a-d0da-7e698acdf6da@yandex.ru> <83inrygggr.fsf@gnu.org> <83y40sfyij.fsf@gnu.org> <76505436-e66c-0ed3-6d7a-ce654f38ef30@yandex.ru> <83bmxnfhbi.fsf@gnu.org> <73600483-1df5-597c-6066-232189bbdd4a@yandex.ru> <834m3ffeb9.fsf@gnu.org> <83twbfdvav.fsf@gnu.org> <73be4b9d-2df8-cc83-b873-398cb7dd043b@yandex.ru> <83pom3ds3e.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1478861974 6511 195.159.176.226 (11 Nov 2016 10:59:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:59:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: tino.calancha@gmail.com, dgutov@yandex.ru, 21391@debbugs.gnu.org To: Tino Calancha Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 11 11:59:00 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c59XE-0003W0-BQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Fri, 11 Nov 2016 05:57:12 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:33266) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c59W8-0004fi-Q8; Fri, 11 Nov 2016 05:57:08 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1441 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1c59W7-0001zf-U2; Fri, 11 Nov 2016 05:57:08 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Tino Calancha on Fri, 11 Nov 2016 19:07:15 +0900 (JST)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:125609 Archived-At: > From: Tino Calancha > Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2016 19:07:15 +0900 (JST) > cc: Eli Zaretskii , tino.calancha@gmail.com, > 21391@debbugs.gnu.org > > > On 10.11.2016 21:59, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > >> Because currently they can call thing-at-point without defining > >> foo-at-point. AFAIU, you suggest to deny them this possibility, and > >> force them to define foo-at-point for every foo. > > > > They'll really have to do that only for string-unrepresentable foos. > > > > Like currently (thing-at-point 'symbol) returns a string, whereas > > (symbol-at-point) returns an interned symbol. That's nothing new. > Indeed, this sounds the right usage for me, and for an user who has > read the part of the manual refering to `thing-at-point'. I disagree, sorry.