From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24953: 25.1; Possible inefficiency in UTF-8 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 22:16:08 +0200 Message-ID: <83bmxffaev.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83vavnflg9.fsf@gnu.org> <83eg2bfc51.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1479329469 14669 195.159.176.226 (16 Nov 2016 20:51:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 20:51:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 24953@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Barzilay Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 16 21:51:03 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c77Ab-0002SJ-WD for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2016 21:51:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54817 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c77Af-00084s-4B for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2016 15:51:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59279) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c76dl-0005M2-PW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2016 15:17:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c76di-0008Lx-MI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2016 15:17:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:44487) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c76di-0008Lo-J9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2016 15:17:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c76di-000808-Dz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2016 15:17:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 20:17:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24953 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 24953-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B24953.147932738830706 (code B ref 24953); Wed, 16 Nov 2016 20:17:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 24953) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Nov 2016 20:16:28 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59886 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c76d9-0007zC-Sm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2016 15:16:28 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39871) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c76d8-0007z0-VK for 24953@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2016 15:16:27 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c76d0-000826-Hw for 24953@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2016 15:16:21 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:57190) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c76d0-00081o-EJ; Wed, 16 Nov 2016 15:16:18 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4748 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1c76cy-0007Nu-Hy; Wed, 16 Nov 2016 15:16:18 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Eli Barzilay on Wed, 16 Nov 2016 14:59:58 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:125768 Archived-At: > From: Eli Barzilay > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 14:59:58 -0500 > Cc: 24953@debbugs.gnu.org > > > Yes. (And it should be the default on GNU/Linux, at least on most of > > its flavors.) > > I built and installed 25.1, and it looks like the default is also > English. (At least according to `current-language-environment'.) Is > that a bug then? It's not a bug. The important thing is the various coding-systems: if your locale is something like en_US.UTF-8, then the default encodings should all be utf-8, which is what you want. > >> (I originally thought that all it gets me is a default encoding for > >> non-ascii files...) > > > > You could customize just that, then. > > Using `prefer-coding-system'? Or something else? Using setq-default. > > And I don't really understand why that is needed, either, unless you > > want the files you create to be automatically in UTF-8. > > Doesn't that make sense if I almost always edit source code for > languages that use utf-8 to read sources? Languages that use utf-8 should already encode in utf-8 by default. Which ones don't?